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Post by redzip on Aug 3, 2014 0:50:09 GMT
2006 Adams Julite 2horse, BP, straight load with divider. Very good shape as far as I can tell. The seller has it priced at $7500 OBO,.., new they sell for $10,600,.., I think its worth $5500 ?
I'd like to sell my Adams 2004, 14 foot steel stock trailer,., very good condition also.
Thoughts?
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Post by redzip on Aug 3, 2014 10:15:19 GMT
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 3, 2014 12:51:03 GMT
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 3, 2014 13:20:33 GMT
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Post by redzip on Aug 3, 2014 13:23:01 GMT
Thanks HL4L The last one you printed is quite similar,.., so I am 'on point' with price, for the most part. This is a private party seller , and the guy I originally bought my trailer from, would be the person that would probably come back and buy my old trailer from me, if I were to sell mine. I just want to get away from a steel trailer, and get something lighter weight, more modern, etc. I actually prefer a stock vs a straight load tho,.., altho Zippy was more used to a straight load trailer. He moves around more in the stock trailer, where he seemed more comfortable in a straight load.
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 3, 2014 13:32:36 GMT
Then look here in this brand.
I can vouch for excellent quality, great craftsmanship and looks. Safety features are many that everyone copies from this manufacturer. They recently have made their own all aluminum frame and skin trailers... Some info on them... www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=562155
If I had the $$...this IS what I would go back to in a hurry. I saw these trailers near 30 years old still in great shape on LI at horse shows. They hold their value. More importantly, when involved in a accident, they stay together and protect the horse unlike many others. Went to to many disasters with my bosses to "rescue" and transport horses from wrecks...gave a new meaning to my trailer wants. I also prefer full divider versus a small nothing between horses... option with this company that is no big deal...
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Post by horselady on Aug 3, 2014 19:09:57 GMT
i would check out his prices. been in the business for years and years and takes trade in's and ships very reputable , he is about 1hr 1/2 south of me or 45 minutes from new york city. www.facebook.com/paulcongelositrailersales
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Post by redzip on Aug 3, 2014 19:42:06 GMT
The trailer I'm interested in is right in my neighborhood. I'm interested in this trailer bc of the proximity, and the style,.., Its a lot more like I'd like to have, then what I currently have. Its a private party sale. Otherwise, nearest dealers here are Traveledlane Trailers, and Delwood Trailers. At least on my side of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, and the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel to the south. Everything else is 3+ hours away.
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Post by nhg on Aug 4, 2014 16:32:33 GMT
I can't help because of where I live but as far as I'm concerned a straight haul is worth 0, nada, zip. If someone gave me one I'd sell it.
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Post by redzip on Aug 4, 2014 17:15:20 GMT
I can't help because of where I live but as far as I'm concerned a straight haul is worth 0, nada, zip. If someone gave me one I'd sell it. Why? I've never owned one?
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Post by nhg on Aug 4, 2014 19:52:10 GMT
They're small, horses hate them, they can't move around. It's harder to load them, particularly when you're alone. I think a stock or angle haul is much safer. And you almost never get a stand up tack area in a straight haul.
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Post by redzip on Aug 4, 2014 21:37:14 GMT
They're small, horses hate them, they can't move around. It's harder to load them, particularly when you're alone. I think a stock or angle haul is much safer. And you almost never get a stand up tack area in a straight haul. No tack area on this trailer which is something I've wanted. it has a V nose and 2 straight stalls with front and butt bars, so you can lead in. Just talked to the guy, someone else offered him $5500, but he wants more than that. I called a guy about my trailer, but don't know what to ask for mine?? I'd love $3000 for it, but probably get more like $2800 -$2500 for it. I'll try to upload some pics of mine for others to price. Thanks.
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 4, 2014 23:03:20 GMT
red...a "V-nose" loses quite a bit of space although it is considered in the length. We had friends with this style enclosed race car trailer...was amazing how much space was gone due to the "V". Please before committing make sure the stall length is sufficient and that you have the neck & head room for Zip to ride in comfort. I have not had the pleasure of seeing a "V-nose" horse trailer in use...
nhg... not sure what you refer to as small? I'm confused honestly... The straight load trailer I have had use of had wider stalls than most stock trailers that are 6' wide and the warmblood size was 6' 8" wide and 7'6" high, doesn't sound like much difference but it truly is. Ample space in front of the horses I was able to slide in a very large tack trunk that held the horses harness and their 5' high pulling collars and still walk across the front of the horses "stall" area with no difficulty. Still had room to hang a huge haynet for them to munch out of. It did not have a dressing room. The trailer I towed was a Kingston brand. It had no rear center bar but a free swinging removable divider. The trailer was made with a ramp load, sliding side windows, a jalousie window in front and roof vents along with rear top doors the could lock open while traveling, be closed or removed. It had 2 human size escape doors... padded butt and chest bars and a solid stall divider also had padding... This was standard equipment on a Kingston brand. If I had pictures of it when open you would think it was a 2-horse stock trailer looking from the window area down. The trailer was so large it held a pulling team of 2 Percherons that I drove in competitions and other events including weddings. The only difference was those horse faced forward when traveling and did not have the ability to turn nor move around in the trailer. To be honest, when one of them stomped their hoof you knew about it and I pulled with a 1 ton truck because that was what I had access to... one horse was 1900 pounds the other was 2100 pounds...they were true drafts and big boys!
I don't know of any slant they would of fit on body length wise let alone trying to secure them in with a divider. Stock..yup they would of fit...but I for one would not like to haul with them having the ability to move around...I could see lane changes being unintentionally done!!
I've driven more straight load than slant or stock and would be able to load and haul any long & lanky Thoroughbred in any stall than would happen with the slants, even the wider ones. I've done the goose-neck 4 - 6 horse straight loads too...never an issue.
What I think of as a stand-up tack space is a dressing room...it has saddle & bridle racks and a place to lock your belongings and yes, indeed small area to change your clothes if needed.
What have you seen or not seen that you so dislike a straight load???
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Post by redzip on Aug 5, 2014 2:55:45 GMT
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Post by nhg on Aug 5, 2014 5:30:42 GMT
HL4L we've had a few and I know people that have had them. The majority are small and claustrophobic. We did have a Logan coach that was bigger and you could walk the horses in and it had a dressing room at front you could then walk right into instead of those dinky ones they usually have. Yours sounds similar. But the average two horse straight haul is tiny and I wouldn't have one again. The other thing is that they have to be backed out which is really scary for some horses. Good point about the V nose. That was one thing I was disappointed in with our last trailer. It was a Circle J 3 horse slant but the tack room was smaller because of that.
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 5, 2014 11:46:33 GMT
Seeing the pictures I have questions.... {you knew I would and would make comment}
How long is the stall area...from bar to bar? {should be at least 6', 7' is better} How long is the "V-nose" area before the "V" ? {most need a minimum of 3' of straight neck & head room for animals comfort} How wide is each stall from padding to padding? {Will Zip easily fit?} Is there any insulation in that trailer? Roof? Sure none in the sides.... what are your temperatures like year round? Can you see trailer perspiration lines on the walls? {Could be indicative of a very hot trailer to ride in pretty much year round... Without rear windows I 'm not sure you can get adequate air flow with just slides in the human door and side...why my next ??} A roof vent or two? Do the rear upper doors come off or lock open during travel? Was it designed that way or just the way the current owner may have shipped with it? {Some trailers have removable/locking doors some don't, look for damage or "marks" on the trailer side where that door closure thing would bang against the trailer while traveling...could freak Zip in shipping!} What is the floor made out of? Lift and look carefully under those mats....if solid flooring...are there weep holes for urine escape and water to escape after a cleaning is done.
The "V-nose" did take away a lot of room...measure your horses length, measure the length especially the head & neckroom area...that could make all the difference in Zip willingly loading or not if he is squished. Zip needs to travel straight not having to have his head canted at a angle. Make sure the stall area is wide enough...if you remove or not use the divider you also can't use the butt bars to keep Zip off the rear door or contain him when opening the trailer at your destination. I have hesitation about that V-nose... How much increased gas mileage are you really going to get or aerodynamics? Does it make for a better ride for the horse that shape??? I truly don't know....
Is that trailer able to be locked completely? Side doors have key locks? Does he have them and do they work? Rear doors use padlocks...looks like the same closing and lock mechanism on our car carrier.
It looks like a nice trailer. Clean and well kept, or cleaned real well for selling...
I'm not sure it is worth all that money though... it is 8 years old already,... but I have also not bought this kind of trailer, nor know your market conditions in your area... Lot of help I am...NOT!!
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Post by redzip on Aug 5, 2014 13:13:19 GMT
You are FANTASTIC help HL4L,., exactly the kind of input I'm looking for I like the trailer bc its aluminum, therefore lighter,., looks pretty simple to manage, BUT over priced, IMO. Its also a 2006,., my steel stock is a 2004. So the difference in age is nominal, BUT its along the lines of what I'm looking for. I don't know what mine is worth, if I could get $3000 for mine, I'd offer this guy $5800-$6000. I'm going to go back and measure today,., I think,.., It might not be my time to buy a new trailer,.., but it is my time to start shopping for something else. Thank you for all input, I will take those ?s and try to answer them today with a tape measure. 2 things, 1) the guy is selling this trailer for his now deceased father, who actually had the horse. So he really doesn't know all the answers. And 2) he owns the trailer with another person, so clear title could be a problem. wag finger
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Post by redzip on Aug 5, 2014 13:57:54 GMT
Here are some pics of my trailer,., how would you price it? Adam 2004, 14 foot stock trailer. Floors good, spare tire, mats. Serviced last fall, electrical, tires, etc. altho not used after being serviced. Thanks for the input
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Post by nhg on Aug 5, 2014 14:28:38 GMT
Your stock trailer is an amazing condition. It looks like new.
Around here we find that trailers are priced oddly and they really hold their value. I sold my 2012 Circle J for $300 less than I paid for it brand new two years before. What we see are nice trailers that are ten years old selling for almost what they'd be new, around 10 thousand. And then there's a big drop in price of about 4 thousand and the steel stock and stock combo trailers sell for about 6 thousand. Then you get down to the teeny older two-horse and totally rusty stock trailers with zero maintenance and they sell for under 3 thousand. It's really frustrating.
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Post by nhg on Aug 5, 2014 14:32:14 GMT
I just looked at the ad. The nose area looks fairly useless, are there even saddle racks in there? It looks roomier than the trailers I'm thinking of as two-horse straight haul but I don't like that the horses can put their heads over the bar and reach whatever they want. Also, is it all aluminum or aluminum on a steel frame?
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