mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 9, 2014 23:36:47 GMT
Yesterday when I was treating Mister's feet (which are growing out nicely by the way), I found this on his heel. It's not hot, or sore. What do you think? An abscess getting ready to blow? I have furazone and vetricyn - should I try either of these or something else? or should I just wait to see what it's going to do? The light colored part is like a bulb (does that make sense).  |
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Post by lorddaxter on Sept 9, 2014 23:45:13 GMT
Oh no, does look like an abcess, I'm blaming Shadowlark for this!
I'd just leave alone till it bursts, obviously you'll be keeping a close eye, it's in an awkward place to poultice, Dax had one same sort of location
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Post by nhg on Sept 10, 2014 0:12:39 GMT
That's interesting. I have no idea.
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Sept 10, 2014 2:31:06 GMT
You could also try soaking in Epsom salt and hot water. Just hot enough that you can stand it. May help bring it out. Or use icthalmol (sp) it's a black suave that draws out infections etc.
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Post by redzip on Sept 10, 2014 2:46:43 GMT
That is a big abcess,., if it is an abcess? I would probably keep an eye on it, and see what happens. When is he due to see the farrier again? It might require more specialized care after it blows, to avoid any infection,., Definitely keep us updated  |
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Post by Shelly on Sept 10, 2014 3:32:11 GMT
Definitely consider soaking it with warm water and epson salts. A friend of mine adds absorbine liniment to her epson salts soak as well, it has some anti-fungle properties that help clean it out a bit. (she swears by it! -- her horse abscesses like once a year)
The more you can soak it the better, we usually try to go 2-3 times a day (what ever permits with your schedule).
An other thing I've done in the past is use a poultice pad (I use Animalintex) -you can place it right over the open area, put Hot water on it and wrap your horse's whole hoof with vet wrap. I usually make a duct tape bottom in hopes it last in the stall or while turned out. I generally change it once a day, unless you horse manages to ditch it prematurely lol.
When I use the poultice pads I try and soak the foot at every dressing change to keep it nice and clean and to try and draw the infection out.
Wishing you the best, Abscesses really are no fun!
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 12:15:46 GMT
Thanks. Farrier is due out next week (we are on a 3 week schedule right now to stay ahead of the white line). I will see about soaking it. He is still at my grandparent's house so unless it's a quick treatment in the morning, I will have to wait and just soak in the evenings when I go to feed. I will definitely keep a close eye on it though.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 12:16:17 GMT
Question - if it is an abscess, wouldn't it be hot? and/or sore?
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Post by lorddaxter on Sept 10, 2014 12:20:43 GMT
Question - if it is an abscess, wouldn't it be hot? and/or sore? That's what I thought but Dax's wasn't, he wasn't even lame, farrier said not always |
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 12:45:28 GMT
ok, thanks.
I sent the picture to one of my vet friends here at work to see what he thinks. I wish the picture were better, I hate my phone's camera. |
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Post by horselover4life on Sept 10, 2014 14:04:00 GMT
Before you do all of that soaking....
Call the farrier and see if that could upset the healing taking place with the white line. {Maybe send him/her the picture of the hoof, or he/she can take a run out and check before you go soaking}
You're trying to keep a area dry...soaking is doing the opposite.
You have a double-edged sword if that is a abscess and the white line on the same hoof.
Personally, I would use ichthammol drawing salve, slather it and cover it to draw the abscess to release at the best possible location. I would stay away from the soaking in this case...
Besides the drawing properties it has medicinal ingredients to help reduce infection chances.
If it is a abscess, after blowing open I would still keep a salve covered compress there to draw the poison out and prevent the dirt invading for a day or so.... By all means let it drain, but control what can get into the opened skin too. After a few days, then keep it lightly covered and watch it closely.
With Misters hoof issues...I would be so pro-active against overly wet feet.
jmo...
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 14:05:55 GMT
Ok, have I ever told y'all I am in love with this vet at work? Ok, maybe not in love but infatuated for sure. Problem is he is probably 10-15 years younger than me and suspect he is gay. Oh well. He's a good source for information anyway and did a bunch of equine work while in school.
Anyway....he told me it could very well be an abscess and with where it is, I wouldn't necessarily feel heat. He did say it was strange Mister wasn't sore or lame. I will watch him better today to see if I can detect any soreness. He told me to take a hoof knife to it and gently pare away at it. If it oozes out, then it's an abscess. Also told me to pick up some copper to soak his hoof in. He likes it better than say Epsom salts. He did warn me that it would stain the entire area blue though! Will definitely get a picture of his blue hoof.
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Post by horselover4life on Sept 10, 2014 14:13:05 GMT
He did warn me that it would stain the entire area blue though! Will definitely get a picture of his blue hoof. 
Well, a practical approach and option to do...this one could be a keeper!! 
Age, who cares...the other part might make it a little "difficult"....but friends, hell yes!! 
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 18:34:08 GMT
Upon further discussions, we have decided that since Mister isn't lame at this time, I am just going to keep a close eye on it. I think I will pick up the copper treatment just to have (I will be on that side of town and need more hoof supplement anyway).
Yep, friends is good (always good to have vet friends). Our offices used to be right next to each other but when I took my new job, I had to move to another building so I don't get to see him too often anymore.
I try not to bug the vets here with personal stuff, I know they get it from everyone else too.
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Post by horselady on Sept 10, 2014 18:50:17 GMT
Age is just a number, and if he makes your eyes twinkle than so be it. lol
it looks to me like he might have kicked it with his other hoof. and if you do not get ooze out of it, than perhaps it already burst open.
what is copper. is that sulfate. ??
i would not soak for along because of his white line. and that should be almost healed by now.
if your farrier is coming out soon, just watch for lamness, heat and further swelling.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 10, 2014 19:10:09 GMT
I guess it's possible he kicked with his other foot - it is on the inside side of his right hind but he's usually not clumsy like that. Who knows with horses though!
He just said the copper stuff at TSC. Said it's good for fungus too. No, he said not to soak it long and if I don't have a soaker boot, spraying it should be enough.
Yep, farrier will be out sometime next week. Will keep a close eye on it for now.
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Post by Lipizzan on Sept 11, 2014 12:02:08 GMT
It is hard to tell, just by looking at the picture. Let us know what the farrier said.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 15, 2014 15:06:15 GMT
Calling the farrier today to schedule for this week.
Here is a picture from yesterday. It seems as if the "bulb" has deflated and is now more like a flap of tissue. I don't think it drained as the foot didn't have any stuff/drainage on it. Sent this picture to my friend to see what he has to say too.
It's so hard to get a good picture with my camera phone trying to hold the leg up, hold the tissue, and hold the camera. |
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 15, 2014 15:24:43 GMT
Heard back from Josh already. Says it must have drained at some point but I'm not convinced since I treat all 4 hooves every afternoon and never saw any residue of drainage. Oh well. Says the pick tissue underneath looks like nice, healthy granulation tissue so that's good.
Forgot to mention I have been spraying it with Vetricyn for the last 3 days or so, just to try and keep it clean. I don't like using peroxide once an injury is starting to heal as it will affect some of the new tissue as well as the old nasty stuff. Of course my Vetricyn is expired but I figured it wouldn't hurt anything anyway!
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Post by diamondgirl on Sept 15, 2014 21:55:04 GMT
I think the picture really shows what is going on with Misters hoof, but the shot I would really like to see, is the one taken at a little bit of a distance, that shows you holding Misters foot up with your knee, keeping it still with your elbow, balancing your weight on your other foot, holding the flap open with one hand, while taking the pic with the other hand. |
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