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Post by horselady on Oct 22, 2013 11:42:51 GMT
I got in over the weekend a beautiful mare that is DONE. she is supposed to have temperment issues and leg problems and is only 20 years old
A fancy jumper horse and has done the shows until the poor mare is ready to cave in,.
also doing lessons to novice kids in the facility.
WELL i asked the owner what is wrong with the mare. THs trainer has been giving tranqulizers to the horse before a lesson so she is calmer. and also DEPO and mare care for years to stop her from ovulating.
no wonder the horse is running off the jumps and being disrespectful to everyone.
She is here and is off the shots and tranq and this weekend off come her theraputic shoes. that no one seems to know why they are on.
some people just do not get it. they love their animals but put too much trust in their trainers.
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Post by horselover4life on Oct 22, 2013 18:57:42 GMT
Let us know when she figures out she is a horse again...
Thank GOD the animals owners found you, the animal has a chance...
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Post by horselady on Oct 22, 2013 20:04:11 GMT
I will, as soon as she gets her fancy shmantzy shoes off she will roll in the mud and be a real horse.
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Post by Terry on Oct 23, 2013 2:43:42 GMT
How sad. The poor girl. I'm sure it's going to take her a while, but eventually she will remember what it's like to be a horse! Keep us posted on her progress.
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Post by nhg on Oct 23, 2013 5:16:17 GMT
How sad. So many horses are just a means to an end. The ribbon or the purse or the name in the papers, whatever it is that makes the rider/owner happy but does nothing for an animal but make them suffer.
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Post by horselady on Oct 23, 2013 11:27:28 GMT
Some owners are sucked into the idea that the trainers are like GOD, anything they say and do to get THEIR name in the ring and reputation known as they are having winners. . Thankfully , some of the owners are taking care of their horses for life. and at least being responsible for that horse and not send it to auction.
I have had horses here for retirement for 18 years. and the owner paid.
And this one is going to be her a long time. she is a doll blue ribbon
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Post by mistersmom on Oct 23, 2013 14:22:41 GMT
Poor girl. I agree, take off her shoes, let her roll in the mud and just be in a pasture to re-learn what it is like to be a real horse. Take her out for grooming sessions but otherwise, I would just leave her be for a while.
How about a picture? Keep us updated about her progress.
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Post by horselady on Oct 23, 2013 19:55:45 GMT
You are right , just let her be a horse. she is one powerhouse to walk out of the arena to a round pen outside. of course the minis i have are walking around and she just stared at them snorting. and i had to make her circle around me, than a couple of hours later Bentley a 3 year old was standing near her thinking "she is one great looking lady." and i promise a photo of some of my horses and boarders in another thread.
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Post by horsesupnorth2 on Oct 24, 2013 0:12:25 GMT
Sad little mare- working like that all those years  I'm very glad she's with you now & will get a chance to come down and relax. No doubt she'll soon have a bunch of admirers  One of my friend's got an OTTB right off the track a few years ago and the poor guy didn't know how to roll anymore, just stood there for a few days watching the other horse- had to relearn! |
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Post by mistersmom on Oct 24, 2013 13:02:04 GMT
My grandmother tells a story of a horse that came to our farm that was scared of the grass - it had apparently never set foot on grass before and didn't know what it was! Apparently he quickly learned it was a good thing.
Why do people treat their horses (well all animals and even some humans) so badly? So incomprehensible to people like us who take care of everything around us.
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Post by horselady on Oct 24, 2013 20:48:11 GMT
In every horse sport there are those that treat the horses as if they are just an item. used. and abused and than tossed away.
and those horses are never given a chance to be horses. some work all their lives never knowing what grass is. and unfortunately there are some that only work until they die.
and for us. we nurture and help any horse, dog. cat, or human we can. and yes we will be known for that.
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Post by nhg on Nov 2, 2013 22:40:02 GMT
I just finished reading The Faraway Horses by Buck Brannaman and he talks about what they do with Arabians to make them look scared for their halter classes. Apparently they really are scared. Terrified, in fact, because they abuse them with things like electric shocks from electrodes to being whipped while tied so that when they're handled they have that 'look' to them. He got a horse calmed down and a lady wanted to know when they cold start whipping him again. Heartbreaking.
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Post by horselady on Nov 3, 2013 0:22:21 GMT
I blame the shows and what seems to make the ribbons. and people are really cruel.
i read a story about a lady that had raised an arab filly and she was soooo loving and the women was so attached to this horse. at the arab show the trainer took the horse and the lady started to cry and she was asked why is she crying. the women said "the mare is going in the back of the barn to be beaten on the face to GET THE LOOK", i will never forget that.
and i will not read the book, i will have nightmares about it.
it is scarey for the horses. and i bet other animals get the same treatment
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Post by Terry on Nov 3, 2013 15:48:26 GMT
Beating them to get "the look"  ?  OMG, I've never heard of such a thing, nor could I imagine ever doing or allowing such a thing! That's horrible!!!!! I am the type of person that would rather lose every show and know that my horse is healthy and happy than to treat my horse (or any animal) in such a way. That just makes me sick and breaks my heart for those poor animals that have to endure that kind of treatment.  |
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Post by horselady on Nov 3, 2013 17:22:36 GMT
Yes Terry, that is just a small portion of what goes on in the horse show industry. I can not begin to post what i have seen the results of how a horse is treated.
I get horses in that are on the verge of a mental breakdown. sad that the eyes are dull and the horse is just moping along. or on the up side are all wild and uncontrollable . than they have a reversal of temperament when they are here for a while. and become horses.
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Post by nhg on Nov 3, 2013 17:58:03 GMT
Jo, it's a great book but that is in it when he talks about a situation where he was working with an arab stud in one of his clinics that was so terrified of everything and got him quieted down and then a woman in the audince asked when they could start whipping him again- in a week or two weeks? Buck was so disheartened and felt that he'd actually made it worse for the horse because now he knew that there was something better than being abused and so scared of people. Buck is fabulous, I love him.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 4, 2013 11:17:59 GMT
You're right horselady... the "inside" of the horse industry is indeed a horror house/barn for many animals. You have probably seen more than I, and what I saw was ..beyond comprehension and believable! I guess no one remembers the Olympic rider who took one of his prized elite show-jumpers to the trailer and beat the horse in the legs so he wouldn't touch a fence competing... thankfully he was caught in the act. Terrible side of it though was he "caned" the horse so badly he broke the leg bone. Horse had to be destroyed... Oh, the tales we could all tell and some have, that is why things in certain horse circles are now outlawed. Horses are a business to many, not flesh and blood living, breathing animals, but a $$ roll at the end of the day. Some trainers care not how they get that money, or the pain and torture the animal goes through, as long as it is a money-maker. The owners of those animals need a similar dose of treatment by the hands of "the trainer". One of the biggest reasons I am so against giving carte-blanche to anyone concerning my animals of, "OK, you said and I will do without questioning anything". Being led to slaughter is how I equate it and they go willingly... I don't go for a barn that is run like that. I want to know what, where, when and why my animal has anything done to or with it. You may have my permission/consent but you WILL consult me first and educate me as to what you think you need doing.
It is MY animal!I also feel the same way about "people" trainers...blind-eye and blind-trust...not me! I guess I am just to jaded and aware of what I see when I look...being involved in the industry taught me a different side sadly exists...and it taught me how to look for, see it and how to walk away from those establishments that act in these despicable ways. I answer to my conscious and someone above about my animals....
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Post by nhg on Nov 10, 2013 15:15:42 GMT
Oh no, HL4L, I hadn't heard that about the Olympic rider. How sad. Sometimes people are so horrible it makes me want to crawl away somewhere and just hide. |
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Post by horselady on Nov 11, 2013 1:21:57 GMT
As in any field where there is prize money things happen. dogs. cats. horses. humans.
To kill horses and animals for the insurance money because they are no longer winning.
to put tack in the boots of horses so they will hit the poles and harm their legs. and when they are ridden in the classes the legs and horse go way up. he remembers the pain.
the glass under pads at walker shows. the blistering of legs to make the tendons and nerve not feel pain.
A tb was brought here to retire for the winter and the owner gave me blister liquid and said the vet wanted it applied. i took the bottle and told the owner i was not going to blister. and if he wanted the horse to be blistered than take it out of my farm.
the stories are endless and the lies to cover it up. Only the animals suffer and sometimes the people get caught as was the insurance scandel many years ago. but that is another story because i used to ride with him and his son is on the upper level olympic circuit. jumping-horse
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Post by horsesupnorth2 on Nov 11, 2013 23:50:47 GMT
Sadly even when money & awards aren't at stake, there are just so many poorly educated or uninformed horse owners out there.  The more we spread the word and set good examples the better the chances are that life will get better for more horses. I always remember the starfish story, sigh...
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I'm very glad she's with you now & will get a chance to come down and relax. No doubt she'll soon have a bunch of admirers 
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OMG, I've never heard of such a thing, nor could I imagine ever doing or allowing such a thing! That's horrible!!!!! I am the type of person that would rather lose every show and know that my horse is healthy and happy than to treat my horse (or any animal) in such a way. That just makes me sick and breaks my heart for those poor animals that have to endure that kind of treatment. 
The more we spread the word and set good examples the better the chances are that life will get better for more horses. I always remember the starfish story, sigh...