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Post by redzip on Aug 16, 2014 18:08:29 GMT
And he really did GREAT! My trainer offered the clinic on a farm about 25 miles away, sooooo, I got the day off from work (YAY!!), hooked up the truck and trailer (after 2 years of hardly any use), loaded Zippy, and off we went! He was very well behaved, no problems except he got a little upset when we were leaving. A woman I know brought her Haffie mare, and the mare whinnied and carried on when other horses got out of her sight. She also tried to double barrel kick my trainer wag finger I put him on that trailer at the end,.., and ROLLED OUT - FAST, she was getting everybody upset. Just one minor cut on his back leg, from stressing in the trailer after she started hollering. The clinic consisted of ground work and practice over obstacles. Zippy and I have done most the ground work at home, so he knew most of what we were doing. But he REALLY enjoyed the obstacles,., he was so silly and funny. We really had a fun day. Heres a picture from his adventure
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Post by horselady on Aug 16, 2014 19:16:06 GMT
Those mare will tease and carry on and be the cause of all the trouble. lol Glad you had the opportunity to go with your horse to a clinic and she what it is like working with him off his home turf. now to practice what you learned. is it possible for your trainer to have a small clinic at your place . ? thanks for sharing and he sure is handsome.
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Post by redzip on Aug 16, 2014 20:13:12 GMT
Those mare will tease and carry on and be the cause of all the trouble. lol Glad you had the opportunity to go with your horse to a clinic and she what it is like working with him off his home turf. now to practice what you learned. is it possible for your trainer to have a small clinic at your place . ? thanks for sharing and he sure is handsome. She WAS causing a ruckus with some of the boys. Zip was very good until we went to leave, then he was a little worried about leaving 'the group', But she was really 'carrying on' all day. She misbehaved in the trailer when she first got there (tried to fly backwards b4 they put the ramp down) after they unloaded her buddy first (of course they parked next to me ) Then she screamed and carried on after she got off the trailer,.., dragging her owner all over the place. Then she tried to kick the trainer during ground work,.., She made Zippy look like a SAINT! His trainer was very impressed, and he and I had a great time together,..,LOL. He was a good boy. I'd love to do a small clinic here, that would be very fun actually,.., I might suggest it.
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Post by Terry on Aug 16, 2014 20:54:29 GMT
Except for the mare getting everyone upset, it sounds like a fun day! I'm glad you and Zippy were able to go and enjoy yourselves. Can you tell us a bit more about the type of groundwork they had you doing, and what sort of obstacles they were using?
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Post by shadowlark on Aug 16, 2014 22:57:36 GMT
Yeah, I'd also like to hear more about the obstacles! Would give me some ideas! Glad you had a good time and soo happy Zippy was good for you! Isn't it a great feeling having the best behaved horse and not the nut-job horse? LOL
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Post by shadowlark on Aug 16, 2014 22:59:29 GMT
Although, good for the mare's owner for taking her - sounds like the mare needs some training so good for the owner for taking her out to a clinic. Sucks it was a pain for other people, but at least the owner is trying to do the right thing
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Post by mistersmom on Aug 16, 2014 23:35:00 GMT
SO glad to hear you got out and about with Zippy. Sounds like you had a great day!
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Post by redzip on Aug 17, 2014 1:14:00 GMT
The ground work exercises we practiced were: -warm up by lunging, -working on lowering/softening the head and neck, -backing the horse by making your body language BIG, -side passing and finishing that with the back up -disengaging the hind quarters, -pivoting around/turn on the haunches, and -pivoting/turn on forehand. She showed us 3 places on the body to control moving the shoulders over, moving the the rib cage sideways (side pass), and disengaging the hind quarters.
The obstacles were: -wooden bridge that moved under their feet, -backing/walking thru cones with balloons, -wooden boxes to stand on, -pool noodles set up to be walked thru (Zippy jumped over these 884530) -tarps to walk on, and tarp cut into streamers to walk thru, -big rings to walk in, and then pivot with front feet in and hind feet walking around (like big hula hoops) and the opposite, hinds in, fronts out, -umbrella opening and closing. I think thats it, but I'll keep thinking,..,
Then she offered the afternoon to ride over the obstacles,., but I was tired, and Zippy was hungry. He didn't get any real turn out time this morning, so we went home around 1pm (started at 9am). It was a good day, and Zip was Awesome!
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Post by Lipizzan on Aug 17, 2014 8:25:33 GMT
Wow your horse is really pretty
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 17, 2014 11:18:59 GMT
Sounds great...and all of it can be applied to "things" encountered or needing done on a true trail ride. That mare sounds spoiled...walking/dragging her owner while being led and then carrying on..... Yes I know mare will be mares but they should have manners just as any stallion does and must... Sounds like Zip was a superstar...just the way "Mom" likes it to be!!
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Post by redzip on Aug 17, 2014 14:16:18 GMT
Yep, that woman has her hands full until that mare calms down. She was a pushy and strong willed Haffie. There is only one way to get them used to things, and that is to expose them to different situations. But when there is one in the crowd,., you don't want to get your horse too close. Zippy was really good, and we escaped just in time
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Post by redzip on Aug 18, 2014 15:00:29 GMT
Just wanted to add,.., I rode today, and practiced the 3 'buttons' on the Zippy's side under saddle. - Foot on the girth/slightly behind the shoulder, Zippy did an excellent 'pivot' on the hind end (moving his front end around his stationary hind end).
- Foot in its regular spot, slightly behind the girth, Zippy did an excellent side pass.
- Foot behind the girth, further back (rib cage), Zippy did an excellent 'pivot' on the fore hand (moving his hind end around, while the front end stayed in place). Both sides!
Also worked on keeping consistent leg pressure on his sides,., which he NO longer runs away from anymore, thank goodness! AND, his neck reining. Perfect! This boy is good! apple
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Post by mistersmom on Aug 18, 2014 15:31:44 GMT
Yipeeeee! Sounds like you and Zippy are getting in sync with one another. All your hard work is paying off now.
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Post by redzip on Aug 18, 2014 15:45:39 GMT
Yipeeeee! Sounds like you and Zippy are getting in sync with one another. All your hard work is paying off now. Thanks MM Its true, all that spookiness, over reactiveness, rushing away from leg pressure, fussing with the bit, jigging, bolting, so many fear induced behaviors,.., Not even mentioning ALL of his OTHER (past) idiosyncrasies I dealt with, pinny eared, suspicious, chewing, digging, running over someone, not letting me touch his ears, his tail, the trimmers,.., the list was endless,.., He was just a HUGE bundle of issues needing to be 'fixed' I am sooooooo HAPPY that we are making definite PROGRESS He is such a nice little horse, and I really think that when we get his canter down, hes going to be AWESOME!! Somebody really messed him up along the way,.., his trust is coming back, FINALLY!
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 18, 2014 17:19:33 GMT
Think I need to do this with all mine:)
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Post by redzip on Aug 18, 2014 17:39:12 GMT
Tons of ground work is truly the key. It was what helped Red become very solid broke too. I was just thinking about Zippy earlier, he was so stiff, and so resistant in his shoulders when I first got him. And thru his hind end,.., he did not know how to disengage his hind quarters. His shoulder was sticky, and he wouldn't budge. His body was one big brace against any pressure. And if he wasn't bracing against it, he was running away from it. I put a lot of GW on him myself, and it was the one thing our trainer noticed right away, and complimented me on. Now he is really soft in his body parts. Which helps everything He's a good guy.
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 18, 2014 19:08:28 GMT
My farrier was just saying today that I need to put a ton of groundwork in on Isis, I just find it dull and boring, I'd rather be riding, plus I have no where to set anything up so everything's a big deal
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Post by Terry on Aug 18, 2014 23:50:00 GMT
That is wonderful, Red! Sure sounds like you and Zippy have made some awesome progress!!
I have learned that what you said is absolutely right - ground work is key! Now that our trainer has taught me how to do things on the ground, I've found that I enjoy doing the ground work almost as much as the time I spend in the saddle! I really love seeing the results from it, that's for sure!
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Post by redzip on Aug 19, 2014 1:43:49 GMT
That is wonderful, Red! Sure sounds like you and Zippy have made some awesome progress!!
I have learned that what you said is absolutely right - ground work is key! Now that our trainer has taught me how to do things on the ground, I've found that I enjoy doing the ground work almost as much as the time I spend in the saddle! I really love seeing the results from it, that's for sure!
Agree Terry The GW is where the communication begins, and then helps transfer that communication to under saddle. That was how I got Red to be my partner,., and hopefully Zippy and I are establishing that same partnership
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Post by redzip on Aug 19, 2014 13:31:45 GMT
My farrier was just saying today that I need to put a ton of groundwork in on Isis, I just find it dull and boring, I'd rather be riding, plus I have no where to set anything up so everything's a big deal LD, You don't need to actually set anything up,., just a rope halter and a lungeline. And then practice the various 'buttons', exercises, etc. that focus on better body control. Start with the flexing exercises for softness, then practice disengaging the hind quarters, moving the shoulder, moving the rib cage, both directions, etc. Read up/ google Clinton Anderson's '5 body parts'. Thats a good start, and getting those body parts soft and flexible will translate to a more responsive horse under saddle. JMO, but has worked for each horse I've used it on.
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