Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Jun 19, 2014 13:31:02 GMT
I have no idea if I wrote the title correctly but I hope you understand it I have a 10 years old stallion who had a past as a agressive stud stallion. He did calm down and become more quite although he still has strong drive towards mares and can act up sometimes when in their company. We did tried to sell him because he become related by blood with most of our mares. But, we decided that we love him to much, so we would neuter him, so that he becomes gelding, as we don't need him to be a stallion any more. My question is, does anyone knows some horses that have been gelded in that age and lost their stallion behaviour, or is that impossible?
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Jun 19, 2014 14:26:27 GMT
It will probably take him quite a bit of time before he stops acting like a stallion and more like a gelding. I once heard someone say that it takes same amount of time that the horse was gelded for it to act like a gelding (that didn't really come out right - in other words, if a horse is 1 year old at gelding, it will take 1 year for it to no longer act like a stud; at 3 years it will take 3 years). Not sure how true this is though!
Mister is still a stud at 24 years old. There are times I wish I could geld him but he is just too old at this point in my opinion. That being said, if you don't need your horse as a stallion any more, I would go ahead and geld him before he gets older.
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Post by horselady on Jun 19, 2014 19:52:28 GMT
All I can say is they will still act like a stud but not able to produce. some are just so easy going that to geld them at a later date it makes no difference. meaning if they are nice and mannerly when a stallion they will be as a gelding. We had a stallion that ran with mares for 10 years. he was 15 when we got him, we had him gelded sold to a lady in the city (new york city) and she donated him to the parks department for their mounted police. well he was the only horse to make the cover of the policemans gazette and he would love only one tiny lady as his rider. he always put men in the hospital cause they rode with heavy hands. and hard legs and spurs.
if you are going to have him gelded as a precaution, sometimes the blood veins and arteries are larger than in a normal youngster and you should have it done by a vet. i have a 12 year old TB that i want done and my vets all say to bring him to the clinic in case he starts to bleed.
good luck and i hope this kinda helps.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Jun 19, 2014 21:22:28 GMT
We just want to geld him so that he can live in a herd with mares all year. I did not say he is perfect he has his moments of agression toward other horses sometimes. But it had to be mare in heat near or pushy stallion so that he react. I heard also that older stallions rearly lose their stallion behaviour when being gelded. Expecially stud stallions. Not an easy one to decide...
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Post by horselover4life on Jun 20, 2014 0:46:46 GMT
He may stay "studish" but he will be sterile. He probably at this point in time will not change in personality....he is to old to lose his mannerisms of being a breeding stud... The possibility of reproducing to close a blood-line though will be reduced...or become a non-issue. Isn't it six months though you need to wait to make sure all is healed and hormones have quieted with the breeding horse? I usually dealt with Thoroughbred young stallions and with Quarter horse performance horses...and their sterilizations. The Quarter horses I had hands on contact with were breeding horses but had incredible manners and were not permitted to talk, act or behave or misbehave, period! They were reprimanded immediately every time and they just knew it wasn't tolerated...so they did not! Most people had no idea I was sitting on a stud next to their hussy mare, but that mare sure knew he was around and teased him...talk about ignore factor!! What manners they had!!
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Post by horselady on Jun 20, 2014 0:58:19 GMT
Being a typical stallion that has been with the mares and has some manners. i assume you want him to be with the herd without breeding. so i would go ahead and have it done. as i stated, just be aware of complications during the procedure and perhaps keep him with your horses but make sure he can not get near enough to breed for a few months.
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Post by horselover4life on Jun 20, 2014 1:22:07 GMT
Being a typical stallion that has been with the mares and has some manners. i assume you want him to be with the herd without breeding. so i would go ahead and have it done. as i stated, just be aware of complications during the procedure and perhaps keep him with your horses but make sure he can not get near enough to breed for a few months. You are so right....the mares "in herd" kept the stallions in line with their manners...
You did not "push" the mare... you asked permission, nicely.
Geld him so he can live as a horse with companionship and hopefully behaved enough not to get his butt whooped by a angry mare!
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Jun 20, 2014 7:22:19 GMT
Thank you for your advices. You have been very helpful. He is a very good horse and he deserve the best life he can had. If we decide to go ahead with surgery he will get the best care possible.
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Post by horselover4life on Jun 20, 2014 10:51:05 GMT
Thank you for your advices. You have been very helpful. He is a very good horse and he deserve the best life he can had. If we decide to go ahead with surgery he will get the best care possible. I would not expect anything different from you with how you love and cherish all your animals......
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Post by horselady on Jun 20, 2014 11:19:46 GMT
Rightfully if a stud is no longer being the stud muffin on the farm than gelding is the best solution. especially if they are with the herd of horses, that way no breeding and hopefully no fighting. my stallions were kept that way and i still have two, once i am considering gelding this fall even tho it might be risky , the qh is too old and i do not want to risk it, he might die before they make the cut as the anesthesia might do him in. and of course we all know you will do what is best.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Jun 20, 2014 16:10:16 GMT
Thank you.
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nhg
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Post by nhg on Jun 22, 2014 16:41:41 GMT
I had one gelded at 13 and he was fine but he was a well mannered stud. He's a jerk with other horse now but I think its because he never learned how to get along with them as he was always kept in a stud pen.
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