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Post by 1fatmule on May 8, 2014 22:12:46 GMT
oh, i SO agree! smileys-dogs-642861 example - "look what bitsy does when daddy tries to touch mommy" or "look fluffy wont even let daddy get in bed, NO fluffy wag finger , you cant bite daddy, OH, look now you scared her, and she piddled on  YOUR pillow" wag finger |
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Terry
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Post by Terry on May 9, 2014 0:46:31 GMT
I completely agree! Drives me nuts! Some people are just not very bright sometimes. 
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on May 9, 2014 12:01:03 GMT
My mom has a neighbor whose dog bit my mom (luckily not enough to break the skin) and the owner just kind of laughed and said "no, no fluffy, that's a bad dog" (in the most goo-gooey voice you can think of).
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Post by Valhallanite on May 9, 2014 14:22:49 GMT
That's not good for anybody. My pup is almost 2 years and about 60 pounds now, and I made SURE that there was no aggressive/biting play, and he is wonderful! Every time he would bite during play I would grab his snout, firm but gentle and say "no bite", and hold it for about 30 seconds. He didn't like that, but he got the meaning alright. Now very rarely he will grab me in play and I just have to say the words and he totally understands and stops. Good doggy behavior is a must. smileys-dogs-642861
It's the same thing when some parents think misbehaving children are cute, it's just trouble ahead.
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Post by nhg on May 13, 2014 15:17:20 GMT
Ugh, I could go on and on about this subject. So many small dogs are badly behaved. You look at them and think that if they were a big dog they'd be put down for aggression. We have a nice dog park in our town but I don't go because of the small dogs that are allowed to harrass the big dogs but the big dogs are expected to not react. If one of my big dogs did anything wrong, no matter how small, everyone would be up in arms about the pitbull and how it attacked another dog.
There's a situation right now where a cane corso- who comes to my daycare and is a great dog- 'mauled' a pug at the park. The pug is a known problem dog and steals other dog's balls. The cane corso had it happen to her one time too many and pinned the pug. It's become a witch hunt to the point where the cane corso's owner is thinking about selling her house and leaving town. The pug wasn't injured but almost everyone is siding with the pug's owner because she's been the most vocal about it and has blown up the story to the point where the cane corso sounds like a killing machine.
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Post by horselady on May 18, 2014 0:18:01 GMT
I wonder sometimes if the child is going to be bit by the dog, after a while a dog is going to forget his training and get after that child.
Case in point is my corgie Milo. a sweet looking little orange and white dog that looks like a halo is over his head all the time.
BUT let him be in guard mode and you better not get within 5 feet of what he is guarding. and why? he is the result of my two grandchildren and daughter tormenting. and wacking him.Chasing him with the vacuum and spraying with hair spray and fabreze z!!! yup my daughter got bit on her upper thigh. this dog jumped up and grabbed on to her thigh and did the pit bull shake , he pulled skin and left teeth scars. the second time he bit her the same way she called me up and said that either i take him or the dog is going to the shelter. They would put him down before she was out the driveway .
So i have him . the first months we were careful. and as the dog population grew so did his temper. but we managed to keep all of them in check.
when my grandson came up months after we got milo i realized why the dog has his habits, the teasing and bopping on the face and when grandson was on the floor his feet would bop milo on either side of his body just tormenting the dog. i put a stop to that real quick .
now with only him and molly and my chorikie wendy he is much happier and after 7 years he has almost forgotten his former life.
so yes, kids no matter who they are torment. and some adults also. have no clue to dog training or ownership.
and no wonder so many dogs are put down in the shelters. ignorant and irresponsible ownership. smileys-dogs-642861
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nhg
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Post by nhg on May 18, 2014 0:46:36 GMT
It's the number one reason dogs are taken to and die at shelters. And if the owner brings the dog in to a shelter and says it bites or is aggressive the dog will be put down, there is no chance for them. It breaks my heart.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 18, 2014 16:16:27 GMT
Dogs are never ever born agressive. Some breeds are easier to become agressive if treated badly. I hate when people say, oh dont have pitbulls they are dangerous. Is not the pits who are dangerous but the owners who dont know how to handle the breed, or just want their dogs to be agressive.
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Post by horselady on May 18, 2014 19:05:41 GMT
I agree but I also disagree with that lippi.
I raised rotweillers, i had 12 of them. my male was 185 pounds and the females were over 100, and a small one i never bred but loved her , and a medium one that was not breeding material so i did not breed her.
the litter of 10 pups out of the prize rottie meghan i kept 2 a male and a female. they were awesome looking. the big square heads and boxy bodies with a little longer leg.
they were all raised the same, and treated the same and because there were so many i had them live most of the time in a kennel with huge runs and plenty of room in their rooms and heat in the winter and air in the summer.
when the male turned 3 he was out running with me and the other house dogs and i heard a commotion and he grabbed onto a mini baby i grabbed a rock and banged it on him and he let go, all the while i was stating the word OUT as is their command to stop what they are doing.
he was never allowed to run free again. EVER, he did chew the run and break out one day and he hurt another mini. after that i made sure the run was always in good working order and he was allowed out on a huge chain tied to a tree or with me to go for walks and swim
his sister would fight other females, i could not keep her with any of my other dogs and she was treated like her brother.
she died of cancer and had to be put down and Zeus died in his sleep, i suppose from old age or heart attack.
The biting and the aggression is in the dogs brain and personality, and the humans either bring it out or stop the instinct. again some dogs are just not good at being with other animals.
i stopped breeding and had all the females spayed .
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 18, 2014 19:19:35 GMT
Horselady those breeds are ment to work. I think that male was stress out because he had no "job", But of course it was your dog, you know the best. I respect your opinion, and also agree and disagree. Those kind of breeds should be worked out on a daily basis. I had rotweiller that lived freely with two german terriers that had exceptionally strong urge for hunting and killing (as they are hound dogs). All males, not castrated. They get along fine. But my dad was always tuff on them, he never alowed us kids to pet them too much.
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Post by 1fatmule on May 18, 2014 23:14:32 GMT
my breed of choice was a wolf hybrid, they are now banned in my state after a senators grandchild (16 months) was alone in a backyard with one, tied on a 15' chain. the kid went over to the dog, and somehow got tangled in the chain, and was dragged to death by the unsocialized dog that panicked. there were NO bite marks on his body, only bruising, and chain marks. as tragic as it was totally a owners fault, the senator got it voted on, and the ban was put in place. i bred hybrids for 11 years, and not ONCE had a complaint about any of my dogs, however because of 2 incidents previous to the little bony panic set in. the fines for ownership were high, and people were dumping them everywhere all dogs can, and do bite. training can only do so much sometimes, doesnt everyone know of a "nice" family that had 2-3 kids, two turned out fine, but the third not so good? neighbors had an honor student, and their other child turned out to be a pedophile? genetics/breeding, training/values?
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Post by horselady on May 19, 2014 0:47:56 GMT
You are right lipizzan, the rottie is a high energy dog and i did have them walking and running and hiking almost every day, and i felt bad that they were in the kennels most of the time. that is why i will never have that many dogs again and the rottie has a short life span , and they get cancer more than any other breed i have ever owned. the oldest one passed when it was 9, and the youngest was 7.
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