dc
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Post by dc on Nov 8, 2015 14:36:55 GMT
I am going to be doing a 'part board' for a friend of my daughter. Yes she can ride, yes, she has owned horses. It will be for a token amount ($50). But what do I need?
I am not going to do 'set' days, as my schedule is crazy, she has two p/t jobs (maybe 3) and is going to be a full time student come January. Set days are impossible, she may be working on her day, and I may be off.
I will be responsible for vet and farrier. But I am concerned re: if something happened, (insurance) and would like to make clear if he needs vet attention from something on her watch (poop happens) then she is responsible.
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Post by horselady on Nov 8, 2015 20:14:37 GMT
I hear and read this as 'SHE IS GOING TO PAY YOU $50.00 and you will do all the cleaning and feeding and care cause she is young and has two jobs and is going to school"" and she will come out to just ride.
Now for answering your question:: get it in writing. you are going to charge her $50.00 a month for partial board of the horse "so and so" and she will be responsible to come and clean and feed and care for when she can. and owner of said horse is responsible for all vet bills if any are incurred while the horse is in ________care""""" and have her sign it.
that way all is up front and in the open and you each get a copy include the vets phone number on that paper and all emergency numbers.. oh and if she is under 21 she needs parents to sign that paper as she can not enter into a legal contract. which that agreement is. Perhaps also get a insurance policy for this horse for "Just in case"
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 9, 2015 3:30:47 GMT
I've been interrupted 4 times while writing this...every time I come back, re-read I add more....
I apologize ahead of time for the book and my rather strong opinions.
They are not meant to offend, but I have seen this before and it was not always successful a outcome...
Without further ado and before I'm interrupted again...
I would add that you should also have a written something that if she is hurt riding the horse, handling the horse, on your property and by any other animal she not hold you liable.
In writing that she is NOT to bring any other person to your property without your prior knowledge and absolutely NEVER may she allow anyone to handle or ride your horse.
Personally, I think you are being rather lenient and awfully charitable....
She can come ride the horse for hours and leave....
Without a clause as HL mentioned she is riding near unlimited for near nothing leaving you with all the expenses and work-load. If she is riding the horse and putting wear and tear on his hooves then she should also be paying a portion of the cost for those hooves to be kept in tip-top condition.
If she is riding and exercising the horse his food needs may also increase considerably depending upon how often, how long and what kind of rider she is...
Does she have her own tack or is she using yours?
She needs to be held responsible for keeping it clean and in good shape, repairs made if needed due to her riding, responsible for putting away and locking the tack storage area....your tack is a very expensive investment to have to replace if something, anything were to happen to it.
A insurance policy covering the horse in case of  ? might also be a good idea.
Friends is friends because they never are put to test the friendship under normal circumstance...
This is no longer "normal" circumstance and involves your daughters friend not your friend. She may be a "adult" child your daughters age....leaving that comment for you to explore in your mind.
This "deal" could indeed cost a friendship if not abided to according to your agreement written. Leave nothing out no matter how trivial it seems. Cover everything including hours she may or may not be at your home and riding or messing with your horse....and the fact that your home is not the communal potty but your home.
Depending upon her age she may not be allowed by law to enter into such a agreement without parental consent....yet, her parents in some circumstance can not sign away her rights...medical is one of them I believe. Be careful...unexpected things can and do happen!!
And I will stress this.......
This is all subject to seeing her ride, handle the horse and that she is a competent, kind and caring horsewoman.
Just because she made claim she can ride and had horses does not mean she is a good rider or going to ride, handle and take care of your horse as you like. Is this riding ability based upon her opinion of her abilities or proved to you? Was she a show-ring rider or a trail rider? Did she ride "made" animals or horses that were still "green" and learning? All very different types of riding and knowledge factor..
Under no circumstance is the horse to be handled roughly, struck or hit, nor have abusive anger taken out on him.
You have the right and authority to tell her to get off your property and never return at any time YOU see her treating your horse in a manner you do not like or agree with or seeing that the horse is now a different animal in attitude or such!!
In the end you own the horse and are responsible for his well-being. It is you who loses if something goes wrong from her negligence or dishonesty. She just walks away...
You and you alone are your horses advocate for his safety, care and well-being....to anyone else paying such a price for partial board, he is a cheap hack-ride. {sorry}
My apologies as I do not want to make her out to be a "bad" person...but you need to also see a bad side of "what-ifs" that can and do happen.
Sugar-coating is not my way as you know...if there are pitfalls I would rather put them out for you to see and be protected from for you and more importantly, for that horse.
Now, I will say good night
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Nov 9, 2015 14:04:25 GMT
Agree!! One thing is, 50$ a month is dirt cheap. Why should you be responsible for vet care and farrier? Is it your horse she is doing part board or her horse? If she is working 2-3 jobs. When is she going to have time to take care of said horse. Seems to me your setting yourself up. That 50 won't even cover feed cost for a month. Let alone the time it takes to properly care for the horse. Personally I wouldn't do it for that price. Also have a liability form for her to sign. That way it covers you. Is it really worth it for 50$? It wouldn't be worth my time for that price. Most places charge way over 100$ for a partial care or lease. jmo
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dc
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Post by dc on Nov 9, 2015 15:20:20 GMT
lol, I know it is cheap. Like I said ' a token" I also told her it would be $75 come spring. I pay $175/month for board. I've seen her ride when she had her own horses, for 'babysitting' purposes, Riley was her place for a couple of weeks, her horses were at mine. I prefer she uses my tack as it fits him. I will also be asking that she steps in for vet/farrier visits whenever possible, as way to often my little (eye roll) p/t job often means my schedule does not allow me to be there. Heck, I'm thrilled to have s omeone ride, it can only help me, it's not about the money at all. And yes, I will have something signed which is what I was asking about, absolutely will no one else ride. That will be stressed, she'll have to abide by the barn rules as well, one of which is NO ONE goes into the field other than owner (in this case part boarder). I will also watch her ride him a few times first. The reason I am ot planning 'set' days, is because we both are available to work 7 days/week and most holidays. Makes no sense for her to be working on her day and me not and vice versa and no one goes. I'll fire her a message which days I will be going each week. Her first was unbroken she had help with training her, as a teen.
I'm going to ask her to get OEF insurance.
Clean tack when done. Responsible for any issues occurring on her watch, OEF insurance, waiver in case of injury, hold for vet/farrier when I a unable (assuming she is not working/school that day), money due first of the month. Clean up after self, anything else?
Honestly, I've thought about asking her to come to give him a ride anyway. This way it's just more professional/businesslike.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 9, 2015 15:40:23 GMT
Just make sure this doesn't go the other way and overboard with her amount of riding him....
She may have owned horses and taken care of them beautifully.
This horse though is not hers....he is yours!
Sort of like a rental car...not quite handled or driven the same way as if you owned it and had to be $$ responsible for repairs....
I would put limitations and restrictions on her and what she may or may not do with Riley, to protect Riley!
Please also keep in your mind if she is really a stronger and more advanced rider than you....
Riley may not be quite the same horse after she requires him to do things you don't and in her own way.
Will he take advantage of you or become obstinate and refuse you....possibilities.
Right now Riley watches for your safety and from what you have written in the past "he protects you"....
The decision is yours dc and yours alone to make.
Riley is a very special animal with his personality and the attitude he has toward you.
I would not want to see that change unless it is for the better.
Only time will tell if you decide to try it....
Just realize that there are good points and there can be bad points....hopefully the good far outweigh any bad.
Enjoy your horse.
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Post by horselady on Nov 9, 2015 21:21:26 GMT
As an after thought.. make this agreement renewable every month. that way there is a time limit if either party wants out. no hard feelings l
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? might also be a good idea.
