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Post by lorddaxter on Jul 16, 2015 12:34:28 GMT
So I have a friend who has a mare, the mare has been bred once, way before she owned it(by my neighbour)and it did have issues with the foaling so he didnt breed her again, I dont know details yet but she is contacting him.
Anyway, she moved to Calgary area couple years ago and recently the stallion from next door(expensive warmblood guy)got into her field and bred her mare, vet says she is due in the spring, she is shocked but happy in a way!
The stallions owner has apologised and is fixing the fences so it doesnt happen again, they have also offered to pay towards her mares birthing costs and any extra vets bills incurred
Heres the thing, does this mean they can lay a claim on the foal, would it be better if she paid for everything or will they still have a claim to it anyway, I doubt she can afford the stud fee if that would be the best option to ensure they cannot stake a claim as this is a pricey stallion.
Any advice appreciated!
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Post by carshon on Jul 16, 2015 13:48:25 GMT
Well kudos to this stallion owner for stepping up and offering to pay for some of the vet bills. I think that since this is an oops breeding the foal is hers but she will not be able to register it because the owners are not required to put her mare on the stallion report unless the stud fee is paid. I also don't think she is allowed to say that the mare was bred by Stallion "X"
Our laws may be different but that is commonly how it works in IL
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Post by mistersmom on Jul 16, 2015 14:08:48 GMT
Hmm, that's an interesting question. I agree with Carshon though - good for the stallions owner to step up and pay for things. I always worried about Mister getting loose and breeding a mare "unplanned". I would also offer to pay for the mare's care if that happened. However, I don't think I would ever try to claim rights to the foal (but then again, I have no desire to have a foal). Since the stallion's owners have been so upfront with everything so far, if I were your friend, I would just ask them if they are wanting to take the foal or what there intentions are. I'm assuming your friend wants to keep the resulting foal?
I think Carshon is right about not being able to register the foal unless the stallion owner submits the paperwork to the registry.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 21:49:15 GMT
Interesting predicament...
I would not expect registration for this foal without paying the stud fee. That being said (and I do not know the quality of your friends mare) the stallion owners may not want people to know about this oops. I doubt they would want the foal. Particularly if this is a very high end stallion that has criteria for the mares who he covers. (ie performance record, inspection scores ect.)
I am glad to hear that they are stepping up to do the right thing, but I don't really think that they would have any claim to the foal.
Did they offer to pay to have it aborted? Or when it was discovered that this mare was in foal was it too late? I don't really think they would have any claim to the foal.
I kind of think of it like this - If I had a fancy show dog and he got out one day and bred another persons dog, I would do the right thing, as the stud owners here have done. I would not expect those puppies though as I was not approached by the other animals owner for stud services, and my animal was the one at large.
People can't charge for services that weren't requested. Otherwise we would all be getting loads of bills from fictional companies for fictional services.
IDK, just how I see it.
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Post by lorddaxter on Jul 17, 2015 19:37:02 GMT
All very good points, Ill text her later, Ill let everyone know how things unfold:)
Mare is registered but Im not sure of her breeding, I doubt she would consider aborting, turns out it was the foal that had problems months later not the mare so thats some good news:)
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Post by horselady on Jul 18, 2015 0:05:17 GMT
As a stallion owner if that happened to me i would step up also and make an offer to pay, also if the mare is papered perhaps the stallion owner can do a breeding certificate and allow the foal to be registered. it is the least he can do besides fixing fence. so the foal is a 2016 foal?? and this perhaps just happened?
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