mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 15, 2015 20:37:43 GMT
I got my settlement for the barn, plywood I added and debrie cleanup. So now I have to save up some dollars to get the site re done and the new barn with be 30x40 with 10ft walls, a 10ft garage door and a 3ft walk thru door enclosed and will sit different than the other one did.. So maybe by late fall the process will begin. I still have to go talk to the people that install the barn and get an actual cost. I do want the post cemented in this time. So that may add to the price. But hopefully this one will be around longer than a year. Once it's up we can start putting in 5- 8 x 10 ft stalls down one side and still have enough room for hay storage and we plan on building a 8 x 10 tack room... So the new barn will look like this one. We will do add ons like windows our self.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Apr 15, 2015 23:35:26 GMT
That was pretty quick mingie! The new barn looks like it will be nice. What's the inside like? Is it a open span or are there poles on the inside as well?
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Post by horselady on Apr 16, 2015 0:05:28 GMT
Gee that was fast. barn looks good. just take your time and draw out the interior. and i would suggest walls to reinforce the outer walls with rough cut planks. that way if a horse kicks a hole in the wall that can be easily replaced. and the walls inbetween the horses double also. so no horse can put his foot thru the wall into the stalls on the other side. it is double the work and cost for good walls but well worth it. my stalls and interior of the barn i have is 28 years old and going strong.
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 16, 2015 0:05:45 GMT
Don't know yet. I haven't gone to check them out yet. But that is the style I'll be getting. I'm not going to check things out until I have all my ducks together. Then I can get it ordered a date set up and have the site ready.  |
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 16, 2015 0:39:30 GMT
Gee that was fast. barn looks good. just take your time and draw out the interior. and i would suggest walls to reinforce the outer walls with rough cut planks. that way if a horse kicks a hole in the wall that can be easily replaced. and the walls inbetween the horses double also. so no horse can put his foot thru the wall into the stalls on the other side. it is double the work and cost for good walls but well worth it. my stalls and interior of the barn i have is 28 years old and going strong. Settlement took 2 weeks. That is the barn I want. Oh yes I will reinforce the inner walls. I plan on using 2x6's for stall walls. They will be at least 6ft tall and then I will put like cattle panels for the top sections. Or I thought about using 2x4's and rebar or conduit for partitions on top. We have most of the lumber for the stalls already. I have pretty good horses. They have never been rough in the stalls. Pawing is the worst thing 2 of them do. So their stalls will have mats. I'll be glad to have another one. At least when we do start putting in stalls we'll be inside and won't have to fight the weather. Then one day we'll run water and electric to it. But just having a barn is good to!!
With the salvage we get from the old barn. We should have enough materials to finish the pig / chicken pen. And enough 6x6's and revamp the trusses to replace the well house and make it big enough to store the pool stuff in it. Probably a 10x 10. 
If it ever quits raining we need to get back on the fencing. We have enough to do for a long time. Just hope this broke down body holds up to see it all finished. 
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Post by horselady on Apr 16, 2015 1:04:53 GMT
this is what mine look and the doors were custome made for each stall by someone who works with metal.  and this is inside one of the barns. the gate on the right is a landing that holds 60 bales of hay mane barn has 9 stalls and tack room and utilityroom. addition has two huge stalls. the aisleway to those is to the left of the photo.  |
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 16, 2015 1:18:23 GMT
Your stalls fronts are the ideas I have for the fronts and partitions. After the stalls are in I will have enough room on the other side of the barn for round bale storage and a tack room /feed room. We are going to make the tack room and the ceiling will be able to hold maybe square bales for camping and or storage. I can pull hay off the round bales for stalls. I have a plan, just need to get it together...We are making the stall doors. I will frame them out and them use 3/4 plywood and they will have X's on them. That will all come as I can afford it.  |
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Post by horselover4life on Apr 16, 2015 2:27:10 GMT
I know you didn't ask and I'm about to write you a book...but............
Might I suggest insulating the ceiling to keep cooler but more importantly...quieter when it pours or sleets & hails.
Can tell you my barn is noisy when it is pouring rain.... 
Our stalls are a combination of 2"x10"{2 bottom rows}, 2"x8"{4 rows}, then a 2"x6" as a cap on every stall wall = 52" high wood walls.
The we visited Tractor Supply and bought cattle livestock panels for the top of the wood walls. Alloweing ventilation and our horses to see but not touch or fight especially during feeding times.
The panels either 48" or 52" high and 16' long. My stalls are full 12'x12' boxes. So pieces we cut off the length then were used as part of the front section. Hubby made a wood frame, fit the panels inside by drilling holes in the frame so no sharp metal edges, then he screwed strapping {called steel flats in TS catalog} down every few inches to double secure the panels in place. No amount of pushing on them can move them. I hang a 50 pound hay net off of it for a year now and it still has no wear marks showing...no bends/breaking point or issue.
All of our stall doorways have a header board that ties in across the entire barn....it adds strength. We have not one wall that moves an inch in any direction no matter what hits it or runs into it.
All our stall walls also have 4"x4" sunk in and as high as the wood wall as reinforcement so a hard kick to the wall will not flex the board and possibly trap a leg...in our case we have 2 of these spaced 4' apart as our stalls are 12' full inside wall dimension. Since you are doing 10' wall, maybe one reinforcement?  ...if any.
My stall doors are wire mesh filled 4' gates. These can always find a second use on any farm!!
Our posts are not cemented in as once you do that in my state my building is no longer classified as a pole barn{movable} to a permanent barn and now taxes are owed on permanent structures. However, when they sink the new posts they use water as they fill the dirt in to solidify the dirt around those posts.. it is like putting them in concrete.
Then we will do water and electric...not in the barn itself but right next to it... We will have a water spigot and electric each on a 4x4 sunk in the ground but not attached to or in my barn also keeps me from being taxed on it... more things to check into to avoid the inspections and tax assessor visiting.
So, when doing your figuring remember any lumber is not true to size but a ripped down dimension...roughly 1/2" lost on every piece of wood.
Also look around where you are going to purchase your lumber as some places "rough cut" is truer to size than say Lowe's or Home Depot lumber selections are...
My barn could house draft horses easily with the strength it is made into.
Did my husband build this "overkill" as I refer to it, YES!!!....however, it will not ever need to be redone and no matter what kind of horses we have they fit in these stalls and my other horses have safety and security from their stablemates.
When we build our "tack room" in the future we will use T-111 siding for the walls with wood studs so we can hang things inside and use those stud beams to the best advantage...
Have fun with the new build and you know we want a new photo spread when the project gets underway... 
Just offering some ideas of what we learned, encountered and wish we knew to do differently....
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Post by carshon on Apr 16, 2015 13:22:51 GMT
We have cattle panels seperating my old mare from the baby calves we get each year -and I hate them! THe birds love to roost on them and the droppings are atrocious. Of course my stalls do not have doors so the horses can come and go as they please -adding to the bird problem. I am hoping to change the cattle panel for something else this year so the birds cannot roost there. We need the way so my bossy old mare cannot get to the calves on the other side.
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Post by horselover4life on Apr 16, 2015 14:42:01 GMT
Great carshon...something else to clean. 
So far no birds roosting on our stall "walls"......
Wonder if it has to do with the hawks and owl that are here every day or night???
No mess from them left behind when they sit on my rafters...
I watch but "my" birds are clean birds...they go elsewhere to go potty! 
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 16, 2015 17:26:14 GMT
I know you didn't ask and I'm about to write you a book...but............
Might I suggest insulating the ceiling to keep cooler but more importantly...quieter when it pours or sleets & hails.
Can tell you my barn is noisy when it is pouring rain....
Our stalls are a combination of 2"x10"{2 bottom rows}, 2"x8"{4 rows}, then a 2"x6" as a cap on every stall wall = 52" high wood walls.
The we visited Tractor Supply and bought cattle livestock panels for the top of the wood walls. Alloweing ventilation and our horses to see but not touch or fight especially during feeding times.
The panels either 48" or 52" high and 16' long. My stalls are full 12'x12' boxes. So pieces we cut off the length then were used as part of the front section. Hubby made a wood frame, fit the panels inside by drilling holes in the frame so no sharp metal edges, then he screwed strapping {called steel flats in TS catalog} down every few inches to double secure the panels in place. No amount of pushing on them can move them. I hang a 50 pound hay net off of it for a year now and it still has no wear marks showing...no bends/breaking point or issue.
All of our stall doorways have a header board that ties in across the entire barn....it adds strength. We have not one wall that moves an inch in any direction no matter what hits it or runs into it.
All our stall walls also have 4"x4" sunk in and as high as the wood wall as reinforcement so a hard kick to the wall will not flex the board and possibly trap a leg...in our case we have 2 of these spaced 4' apart as our stalls are 12' full inside wall dimension. Since you are doing 10' wall, maybe one reinforcement? ...if any.
My stall doors are wire mesh filled 4' gates. These can always find a second use on any farm!!
Our posts are not cemented in as once you do that in my state my building is no longer classified as a pole barn{movable} to a permanent barn and now taxes are owed on permanent structures. However, when they sink the new posts they use water as they fill the dirt in to solidify the dirt around those posts.. it is like putting them in concrete.
Then we will do water and electric...not in the barn itself but right next to it... We will have a water spigot and electric each on a 4x4 sunk in the ground but not attached to or in my barn also keeps me from being taxed on it... more things to check into to avoid the inspections and tax assessor visiting.
So, when doing your figuring remember any lumber is not true to size but a ripped down dimension...roughly 1/2" lost on every piece of wood.
Also look around where you are going to purchase your lumber as some places "rough cut" is truer to size than say Lowe's or Home Depot lumber selections are...
My barn could house draft horses easily with the strength it is made into.
Did my husband build this "overkill" as I refer to it, YES!!!....however, it will not ever need to be redone and no matter what kind of horses we have they fit in these stalls and my other horses have safety and security from their stablemates.
When we build our "tack room" in the future we will use T-111 siding for the walls with wood studs so we can hang things inside and use those stud beams to the best advantage...
Have fun with the new build and you know we want a new photo spread when the project gets underway...
Just offering some ideas of what we learned, encountered and wish we knew to do differently....
Thanks for the book... laughing |
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Post by hugs on Apr 18, 2015 22:52:44 GMT
No book, but that is sure going to be a nice barn when all is said and done, birds or no  )And I too am surprised, even shocked that your insurance company moved so fast on that settlement. Good job picking the right company! |
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 18, 2015 23:36:13 GMT
Best part is I got my check today. So Monday it goes into the bank until I need it.. I have State Farm. I have been with them ever since I started driving and they have always been quick with claims.. This is the first home policy I have had with them and so far so good. |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Apr 24, 2015 12:29:53 GMT
I am glad you got the check. Is barn going to be in side of a pasture like the previous one?
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 24, 2015 12:35:01 GMT
I am glad you got the check. Is barn going to be in side of a pasture like the previous one? Yes Lip. I may move it to a more higher ground. As I was having drainage issues with the way the water ran down the grade of the land. But Of course the guy that originally did the site really screwed it up. The guy that I will use is good at what he does. It will be a few months before I start. |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Apr 24, 2015 12:42:41 GMT
This time it will done properly, so maybe disaster that happened was not that bad after all. I always liked barns that are in side of a fenced area where horses are. One day I will have it same way :)Is it important on what side it is turned(north, south...?)
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Apr 24, 2015 12:51:58 GMT
This time it will done properly, so maybe disaster that happened was not that bad after all. I always liked barns that are in side of a fenced area where horses are. One day I will have it same way :)Is it important on what side it is turned(north, south...?) Back in Maryland we had the barns facing south. Here in Missouri they face them to the east. But the next one will be enclosed and the main door will face east. The barn will be in the one paddock area I have. Basically in the same spot They will only be in it for feeding, and in the summer during the day. In winter at night. In severe weather they will be out. Just encase a tornado warning pops up. They are safer out in the field than in the barn. |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Apr 24, 2015 13:07:48 GMT
I wonder how we face barns in Croatia. There are all sides here. Where there is space there is a barn. We don't have such big areas to built. My neibours are right beside me.
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redzip
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Post by redzip on Jul 12, 2015 14:23:57 GMT
Just saw this and don't know how I missed it You did get your settlement quickly Mingiz. Way to go Statefarm! New barn also looks like a pole barn,., which I LOVE my pole barn.
One question tho,., how in the world did the previous company 'set' your building
if they didn't concrete the posts??
That doesn't make any sense, and I can't believe it could have passed any inspections with your county P&Z.
My barn went thru 3 inspections with our county P&Z,..,
1.) site inspection, 2.) permit inspection with site plan for building,
and 3.) Final inspection where the pole builder company had to come back and beef up some of the interior,.,
additional hurricane straps, lag bolts, etc.
Not to mention, the pole builder warranted my building for 1-2 years (?),., something like that.
Just curious?
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Jul 12, 2015 16:06:19 GMT
Red even if it was concreted it would have went anyways. The front was open and it lifted it up. The next one will be concreted in. Plus I'm going to add a garage door on the back end. also have 5 windows put in for each stall. Here you don't need a permit for anything. You can build what you want where you want it.
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...if any.
)And I too am surprised, even shocked that your insurance company moved so fast on that settlement. Good job picking the right company!
