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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 15:56:17 GMT
Spring is right around the corner (or has sprung in some lucky places) and it is time again to think about deworming.
I don't really have a specific question or issue, but thought it might be nice to start a thread on the subject for learning purposes. I am always interested to see what other people do for deworming protocols.
My current barn has somewhat of a relaxed attitude towards parasite control. It is left to the individual owners of each horse to complete sometime within the month with the dewormer of their choice. Not really a ton of accountability and seems like a recipe for super worms, but I know that quite a few people are attending a conference on parasite control in about a week, so maybe that might change. The girl who shares a pen with me have talked about it and are on the same sort of program, it its the best I can do for the time.
I historically have not done fecals with my previous horses, but Benny has had 3 recently because of his sensitive tummy.
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Post by horselady on Mar 13, 2015 17:36:16 GMT
Great topic for this time of year. there are so many products on the market. tube worming with a syringe seems the easiest and the best way is to rotate the type of wormer for best results. what i do is buy ivermectin by the case. since i have many horses i get the best deal and money off after purchasing so many tubes and over a certain dollar amount free shipping. so if i were you i would contact the barn owner and perhaps put up a notice on the bulletin board that you would like to be in charge of the worming purchase and everyone sign up for a tube or two or three, depending on how many horses they have and perhaps for how many dosages. on the notice get price per tube including shipping costs if there is any. there are also daily wormers that can be used as a one time wormer , buy counting 5 times the daily dosage as one dose. per horse. www.jefferspet.com/categories/horse/health-wellness/wormers-dewormers-2?gclid=Cj0KEQjwlYqoBRDajuaTvsyq1PQBEiQAEhSjnC3qUt5Hcl6XLI5d_0l6q68gOlD8R57EnYXpRpZBlAIaAq1E8P8HAQ i goggled horse wormer and came up with this from a horsmans journal cha-ahse.org/store/pages/177/ROTATION-OF--HORSE-WORMERS.html |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 17:54:10 GMT
Great links! Thank you!
I generally use tube dewormers and rotate throughout the year.
Usually something to this effect:
Jan - Quest
March - (optional) Ivermectin if horses have been rubbing or are looking wormy not holding weight.
April - Equimax or something that covers both Bots and tapeworms. Generally Ivermectin based
July- Strongid P
October/November (After the first hard frost)Quest Plus.
I am kind of playing it wait and see with this parasite control conference. It is being put on by the barn vet and I know both the BM and BO are going as well as a number of other boarders. Hoping to see some positive change, if not I might see if I can 'help' with the deworming protocol. Every other barn I have been at the horses all get the same thing (on a rotation) and are all done the same day.
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Post by horselady on Mar 14, 2015 0:03:00 GMT
Great idea. and perhaps grab as much literature as you can to hand out to the other people of the barn. and yes a good idea to have all the horses on the same worming schedule. you have your schedule fixed and if it works that is what is important.
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Post by horselover4life on Mar 14, 2015 12:05:40 GMT
I hope you can get something set-up better Apollo at your facility.
People may "do their thing" when they want, if they want...but that is not in the best interest of the majority and certainly not the horses.
Any place I ever worked at the horses were done, period. 
We, as the workers, usually my boss and I went through the entire barn horse by horse and wormed all, no one was missed.
We cut their grain amount to 1/2 that morning and evening for all {some horses were fed grain at the max amounts}, all the hay they could eat.
This way there was no horse that could have a worm load and carry it back into the barn by not being done at the same time.
Kind of makes no sense to me that you do your horses on the 10th but Mary does hers on the 25th, maybe...her horses were wormy and now re-infect the grounds they are turned out on.
We also had a major paddock/pasture clean-up happen that day too. All "piles" were picked up and I was out for hours dragging every ring and turnout.
Before dragging the areas were also all limed.. never had a "lime burn" either.
Any "new" horse entering our facility was quarantined for 14 days...only allowed in specific areas at certain times. One of the things we did was worm the horse regardless of when he last was treated so we were sure the worm load was nil.
We protected all of our animals as best we could.
We also did the vaccinations the same way.
Vet was scheduled for certain days and we would assist that vet so we knew what horses were done and with what so our horses were also protected.
You could use your vet of choice, but we wanted a copy of that paperwork to protect us and you....
My boss was fanatical about utd worming and vaccinations, coggins paperwork.
We had some of the best junior division show horses in the northeast in our barn and some hunter horses who were top 5 in the nation in various age divisions....those animals were worth mega-bucks...we did not take chances with their health or well-being, ever.
Oh...we also did rotational "paste" worming, fecals especially on those in question.
A horse who was really poor.... vet tube wormed them as that is the strongest and I was under the impression at that time also killed the most species of worm-load possible.
Today, mine are wormed with rotational paste wormer. Every 3 months as things "grow" down here fast. I though this time am doing a fecal on mine first, getting results and seeing what needs attended to. They both look great so question if I need to worm and for what....
Vet out to do vaccinations again soon too.....
Ca-ching, ca-ching....joys of ownership!! 
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 14, 2015 12:39:54 GMT
I just have the 2 on 40 acres, well mostly 20 acres, they look good, I usually worm when I remember and I just get what the pharmacy recommend for this time of year(in scotland its different, we worm more often, due to the damp prob)and Ive never bothered looking into why they recommend what they do as Im lazy I guess!
Mine both look great but I have noticed Ira rubbing his butt the last few days so Ill get some on monday when I head into the city, thanks, after reading this I now know I need ivermectin!
Dax doesnt get a whole tube as hes small which is a bit annoying, I always end up chucking it out, I always want to do a fecal but never seem to get round to it.
Theres a wormer in scotland, I forget the name but the brand Im sure is strongid p, its a 3 day wormer and man I always wondered about that stuff, 3 days seems extreme and this stuff guaranteed it would kill everything, theres a dog wormer here that every time I give it to my dogs they puke up for days.
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Post by horselover4life on Mar 14, 2015 16:27:02 GMT
Make sure any one who does any paste horse wormer dispose of the entire thing in a garbage can where other animals can't get into it. Dogs especially seem to love to chew the horse tubes for some reason.
Although they use ivermectin on dogs and cats, the dosage is so much less in strength....horse dosage amount can cause horrible health complications I understand for our beloved pets.
IDK LD...
Unless Dax is that small I don't know if I wouldn't just administer the entire contents.... Is he really that small?
By the time I'm done wearing some, then they spit some out, my vet told me to "give it all" to our smaller guy. It would not hurt him. He's about 1000 - 1100 pounds now.
Our bigger guy is right at the full tube amount and if he gains anymore weight will need a supplemental amount. Our paint horse is a big boy and a chunk at correct weight for his size.
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Post by horselady on Mar 14, 2015 19:27:12 GMT
LD give him the entire tube. and i put the wormer in the food i dispense in the morning as they have an empty stomach and are eager to eat. sometime apples chopped up will help disguise that foreign smell. and trust me they know it is in there.
i remember my first horse being tubed for worms and i almost passed out. that was way back in l975 when that was the only way to get it done. 757724
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 15, 2015 13:13:09 GMT
Really, weight wise he doesnt match up, I worry if I give him too much he will get sick, Ill be getting vet out soon for vaccinations, I may as her to estimate for me:)
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Post by mustangsavvy on Mar 15, 2015 19:07:21 GMT
I really think it is better to do periodic fecals, instead of this type of deworming. Most vets are moving in that direction, as are starting to see immunity and dewormers not working.
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