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Post by horselover4life on Jan 13, 2015 2:57:42 GMT
insiderssecrets.leadpages.net/pp-horse-getposter1/I just received this in a email..... Has anyone had a chance to read it? Does it make sense and is it useful? I'm to tired to try to make sense of anything needing brain power right now so thought I would shoot it toward my friends to decipher.... Off to bed and I will watch for your comments in the morning.... Nite-nite!! good night
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Post by Shelly on Jan 13, 2015 4:35:03 GMT
OK most thing seem pretty straight forwards but other can be quite controversial as well...
The one thing that screamed at me was floating your horse's teeth every 6 months. Horses with bad teeth that need to be on a 6 month rotation, absolutely but the average horse can get away with one a year or more depending on the horse. That one is a BIG variable.
An other "No No" -- Daily deworming. This is how you create a resistance. Having a proper protocol, absolutely but again you don't want to over due it either.
Monitoring- I feel almost insulted by this one. Doesn't matter how often you check on your horse, colic is something that happens and often the cause is unknown. Yes you can catch it early, and there are a lot of environmental things you can control. I get the point they are trying to make with this one but sometimes it's not what you say but it's how you say it.
I find one of the big things with horses is that in the equine medical field there is still many things they have to research and study. I find when a vet doesn't know why a horse passed they just label it as "Colic" meanwhile who knows maybe the horse had heart issues, insulin resistance, kidney failure, did the horse go septic? There are so many variables that are unknown it sometimes hard to pinpoint the exact reason.
This reminds me of when my old mare passed away. Stella was around 25 years old (not 100% sure) percheron mare. My mom checks on the horses twice a day herself and my step dad usually checks up on them atlas twice a day as well when he tends to his chickens. Anyways. My mom did her last check at around 10 pm the night before and when she went out in the morning at 8 am Stella had passed away in the field. There was no signs of struggle. We told the vet and he said it was colic. From my experience with colic it's generally a struggle. Personally I think she was either diabetic or had heart failure. She was an old girl and it hurts that she's gone but from what I understand I really don't think she suffered. So anyways I'm just questioning where they got their stats from and if anything about the source is really reliable.
Some points I can agree with but other's can be controversial
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 14, 2015 0:42:21 GMT
I finally got to read "the poster".
Most of what was there is well known information.
Horses must drink Best not to feed off of the ground. More hay, less grain and feed diet. Be aware of what your horses normal disposition and ways are... Routine medical care... Routine dental work... Ability to exercise and stretch their legs everyday... Weather changes can compound issues because of what it is, a change.
I was kind of surprised it was nothing new. I was expecting new breakthroughs in colic prevention or treatment to be in that message poster...sadly no.
I do agree some things can be taken in a bad context, however...it is geared for all horsepeople from experienced to newbies who could use some guidance in things needing to be done as needed & periodically. I think they were trying to reach the masses...helping to inform and educate that some things need doing more than 1x every year or two...such as worming for one. And mentioning several options should lead to investigating what is best for your horse and situation. Many have no clue about such things honestly...
Disappointed I was in this though, but then I am not a newbie anymore.
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Post by horselady on Jan 14, 2015 2:00:09 GMT
I have had so many horses come and go. i can not count them or even remember their names sometimes. but having a retirement facility I have seen it all. i have found that some of these horses (most times) are healthy robust and eager eaters. i do not fuss with them by having vets come and work on teeth , feet. and shots all the time. call me a poor horse manager but i find what i do is best. the horses live a natural life. and are happy, and never a cold. or fever, hoof abcess. or anything everyone experiences. With that said the instances i have had colic are because the horse is old. yes they are examined most times by the vet and it is determined that there is either a blockage or twist or growth and the vet calls it colic. I have had horses , donkeys. and dogs. drop to the ground and pass within 10 minutes. upon examining the gums and tongue. they are blue, to me that means heart attack or stroke. so does the old horse die of colic?. yes. it does. but that is because of age. i have rarely had a horse colic just because. ..... and when i do have colic. it is caught quick and i call vet and give proper medications to help the horse get over it. I do not do daily worming it is a waste of money. i worm 4 times a year. and i rotate the type of medication. good hay, feed. limited snacks. sure the apples carrots. and oatmeal cookies are all great. and plenty of clean water. warm in winter and cool in summer. and plenty of natural exercise. So you should use just plain common sense and be as realistic in the horse care as a person would be in caring for a child.
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 14, 2015 2:09:08 GMT
Exactly Jo....
You know your animals and do what is appropriate for each as a individual. What is good for one is not always good for another.
Sometimes less is more and to much is to much and a problem creator....
Common sense approach....guess some today have no common sense to use...
jmo...
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Post by mingiz on Jan 14, 2015 4:59:32 GMT
Agree with Jo. If more people would let horses be as natural as they are. You won't see all the issues people have. I have my horses teeth checked with their yearly coggins test. If they need it then I get it done. I worm every 4 months. Feet are done every 8 weeks. They are feed good grain and hay, They have access to plenty of water. They have shelter if they choose to use it. They are only blanketed when the temps drop into the teens and if the temps are cold and wet. I have only had 4 colics in all my years of owning my own. I caught it quick and resolved it. I have only lost two one that was due to a freak accident and the other due to poor quality of life. I have owned 12 through out my life. The only real way to find out how a horse dies is to have an autopsy done. But most of us can't afford the cost of it.
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