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Post by karencole on Nov 25, 2014 12:20:50 GMT
We have a hip roofed barn that we took down per insurance when we bought my Dads farm. Had the barn sold, guy said he couldn't take it down but if we did he'd move it out. Well he's not moved it out and I think it's going on 3 years. The property is insured however the write up does not specifically list the 40 acres the barn is on because the barn has not yet been moved. This is what I know about the barn it's old, my Dad is going on 79 this year, it was brought to the farm when he was a young boy so it had stood on another farm. There is no nails holding the insides of the barn together. The beams are hand hewn, the pegs that hold the beams together look handmade and the original nails are square so are blacksmith made.
This is causing family issues , 1) because the barn should have been cared for but wasn't when my Dad inherited the farm. 2) because now that he bought it he expects it to be in pristine condition and that we should be able to do that quickly. Iam just about over it, you come and get the wood, we will load it, give my husband gas $ for his tractor and we are set. The only condition is we are to get 1 of the large beams because at some point I'd like to work it into our new house once we are able to relocate to the area where the farm is. I understand location is an issue it is 5 miles, maybe less from I94 in Michigan. Look up the Lawrence/Hartford exit, go to the first road south and to the west it's very easy to get to.
Any questions let me know. I don't know how to put photos on this page but if you text me your cell I can text you a photo of the wood once it's been refinished. I have a wonderfull counter top in my kitchen. The barn has been on the ground but the roof is tin and is still covering the majority of the wood. You will have no clean up involved once the wood is gone the crap inside the barn will be put in the basement of the house and covered.
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Post by Shelly on Nov 25, 2014 17:58:36 GMT
To bad I'm in canada, otherwise I would totally jump on this opportunity!
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Post by horselady on Nov 25, 2014 18:48:15 GMT
Contact a salvage or restoration company near you and let the come and pay you for it. other than that . put an ad in craigs list and have it be gone.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 25, 2014 23:17:24 GMT
If all else fails and it just must go...call the local fire department and ask if they would like to do a "hot" training for the local departments on fast moving hot fires and how to handle and control the rage....
It would be a terrible injustice to such beautiful aged wood, but what else can you be expected to do if everything keeps falling through.
I agree though that a salvage company, old home restoration company might be interested...
What comes immediately to mind is contact "This Old House" television show or the magazine and ask for help in locating someone who would like the wood....
First though you might want to try this place...it might be a answer to your dilemma... They are in your area and doing using what you have sitting on the ground... www.grbj.com/articles/80246-old-barns-are-good-business
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Post by karencole on Nov 25, 2014 23:17:45 GMT
Contact a salvage or restoration company near you and let the come and pay you for it. other than that . put an ad in craigs list and have it be gone. Good idea, I hadn't thought about that. I do the know the man we sold it to did offer to split it with somebody if he would just help get it taken apart. That person refused saying it's much easier to take apart when they are standing. We didn't have that option but I will def look into restoration/salvage!!!!
Shelly we are not that far from Canada Take the bridge into Detroit, jump on I94 west and drive for about 3hrs, I have a camper I'll put you up in!!!!
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 26, 2014 0:15:33 GMT
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Post by diamondgirl on Nov 28, 2014 4:01:16 GMT
Karen I am Uhhh, I guess dismantling a barn that fell down sometime in the 90s. I have saved what I could of one side that wasn't totally eaten by termites. The rest of it I am burning up, in the fire place. It isn't the best wood, but I am getting rid of the mess, and keeping warm. Do you have a fire place? The only other thought I have is, a lot of people I know have used old barn wood for "man caves". Can you advertise it? A contractor friend, took down several old barns, and made man caves in a basement and in a garage. I think he took down the barn, for free, for the wood. It sounds like you have already done the hard part.
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Post by karencole on Nov 30, 2014 1:06:45 GMT
I had lunch with my parents today, the barn came up, the hole where the house was came up, several things came up...I could not keep my mouth shut, God helped me I tried. When my Mom asked what I wanted I stopped short of saying I wanted all our $ money back, it should be a wonderfull thing. Not to many people can say they own a farm that has been in the family for close to or over 150 years. The ground was so bad Michigan State told us not to plant alfalfa because it wouldn't grow...that was when we were given 8acres from my Aunts estate and took over a small portion of a lease from my Dads farm that was adjacent to the 8 acres. When we bought the farm the State again told us it was bad, my parents refused to belive that family could have run it into the ground like that. It was so bad we had to lease it for 3 years to get the ground in better condition, they got good crops but even after 3 years it was bad and needed a lot of work.
The barn should have been taken down 20+ years ago when my Dad was given the property or at the very least repaired. Now he's concerned about the house! The damn house burned to the ground and he's worried about asbestos NOTHING IS LEFT!!! I told him we know somebody who deals with that sort of thing and he left it be. The house was gone before we bought it, if he had a concern he should have taken care of it then not expected us to pay for the farm and the clean up that should have been done. It's all a sore subject and if Andy had not put so much time and money into it already I would have asked for the money back. It's just not a happy deal, it's not how it was supposed to be.
But if Mother Nature is on our side we will have it paid for in 5 years, hopefully less. Then it's ours and we can do what we want with it. This is why you should not do business with family!!!
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Post by karencole on Nov 30, 2014 1:17:42 GMT
I know I sound like a brat too, you'd have to know all the background to think otherwise, I know there are a few on here who know more of my family life. The upside, I did not hold back, I did voice my thoughts and I felt better for doing so....I also took a whole Xanex before going to lunch. I think that helped.
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Post by horselady on Nov 30, 2014 1:56:32 GMT
You did what you felt you had to do. and that is very adult of you. i hope you find a salvage company to come and the wood. i was watching the interior designer Nate burkus actually have a barn demoed so he could salvage the grey wood that was over 100 years old. never feel bad for expressing your opinion. and have it eat at you if you do not speak up. good for you .
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Post by karencole on Nov 30, 2014 3:25:28 GMT
You did what you felt you had to do. and that is very adult of you. i hope you find a salvage company to come and the wood. i was watching the interior designer Nate burkus actually have a barn demoed so he could salvage the grey wood that was over 100 years old. never feel bad for expressing your opinion. and have it eat at you if you do not speak up. good for you . Thank You
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 30, 2014 14:52:30 GMT
Karen...good will come of you having that land. That barn is ripe for picking over yet for those that create from old timbers and plank boards....advertise it and put it on craigslist for those looking to make furniture and things of that nature... craftsman....
As for the house site....can you not just have clean fill dumped in it and be done? Clean fill so you not inherit others issues or even wood chips, tons of them over time make soil.... a few truck loads at a time spread several thick inches at a time decompose pretty quick....think you just lime the heck out of the ground when you level it helps to disintegrate the wood and keep the grounds from getting to acidic to grow well. Maybe you not plant that area for crops you would eat but for a grazing field or haying....would probably work well in time. In time, anything should again grow as nature replenishes what others took away. If there is asbstos...past tense it burned and much of what was there probably particled from the heat and went airborne during the fire...the remnants even if you had them carted away would just end up being buried at a landfill. OK...where is our soil expert.... HELLO....what can Karen do safely and with little cost incurred to her & her family?
Family history is great, but there is a reason it is history, and applies as such. Try to bury the hurts and the done wrong when learning how spent the lands were. They are recovering, they are yours, not your families anymore, if you have legal right to them and that also allows you to do with them as you wish, when you wish and how you wish. Your parents and anyone else involved were paid if you have a mortgage and legal agreement...with that, they no longer have the right to make comment.
Glad you thought to de-stress some with telling as it is and also in taking medication beforehand knowing how your folks can get you...
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Post by karencole on Nov 30, 2014 20:54:37 GMT
I do belive the plan is to put a pole barn up where the house was. All that is left of the house is some timbers and square nails...very cool by the way! There is some sort of steel tank in the basement and steel pipe he's going to pull up after that any "crap" left will be put in the hole buried and when the barn is put up cement will be poured over the whole thing. The only stipulation I gave Andy is he's is NOT to put his barn on my Grandmas flowers I belive he will still have more than enough room for the hay barn and my flowers.
no mortgage it's a land contract, the accountant wrote the contract up so that we have to ask before making changes. We questioned it and she said why wouldn't you ask. I said because it's ours, she said NO you do not own it until it's paid for! Like you have to ask the bank before you do anything, still we signed the dotted line now we have to deal with it.
anyway Iam off, been up since 6am it's time to take a nap before chores. Kinda the thought is my problem may be thyroid related, talked to somebody else and what she went through mirrors what Iam going through. Makes me wonder if that's why I can't loose weight no matter how much I work out and how little I eat?
Thanks all for listening to me I do really appreciate the vent time.
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