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Post by horselady on Mar 2, 2014 0:45:44 GMT
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Mar 2, 2014 0:49:35 GMT
I had seen that on FB too. That is so cool!
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Terry
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Post by Terry on Mar 2, 2014 0:55:32 GMT
Yep, I had seen that on Facebook too. Very cool!
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 2, 2014 12:47:31 GMT
Yesterday we had so much problem with loading our stallion. We have like a truck for horses, but last time we borrowed trailer, so he went inside with no problem but when we had to bring him out, he didnt know how to get out because he didnt used to going out backwards. We really struggled with that but eventually we did it after like a half-hour. And yesterday we were loading him in out truck but now he would not even come close thouhg we have NEVER HAD problems with that. I guess he got scared of that trailer?!
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Post by horselover4life on Mar 2, 2014 13:32:18 GMT
Unfortunately, it only takes one bad time for the horse to fear his next outing...
Sounds like you may need to go back to basics of loading, but to even before that of him going where he is told to go...
Respect for his leader and then the trust that goes with that respect of following quietly in compliance...
Could he be afraid of the ramp if the truck has one?
I know many horses hate the "bounce" of the trailer ramp as they like their hooves on a solid surface at all times and trailer ramps are known to have that "bounce/ movement and hollow sound" {even matted} in them...he may now assimilate that feeling with your truck and want no part of it...
Horse trucks I ever drove had very solid ramps...jump on them hard with my feet and they did not budge or flex...horse trailer...moved a lot!! 
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Post by horselady on Mar 2, 2014 15:53:35 GMT
Other than practice, practice, practice, there is no way to get a horse (especially a stallion) to do what it does not want to do unless you convince him/her that it is the right thing to do.
I have tie stalls. they are 4 feet wide, just like a horse trailer has on one side. i keep it dark with just natural light.
i get them in there , put a butt bar snapped behind them , feed them. pet them from the front than after about 1/2 hour i go along side of them , untie , then back them up.
I use one word commands. forward. stand. over. back. so they know what those words mean
of course i practice those words always when leading them around the yard
also if you have a way to make a ramp going up to assimilate the ramp of a truck. than stop then go down the other side.,
sure it means building a ramp, but with practice the horse will go up. oh and do not forget sides so once the horse is on there , they can not turn around.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 2, 2014 21:19:08 GMT
That is all fine, but before that trailer he was going on that ramp with no problem. He was always going in quietly. But I think we will have to gain his trust to that truck all over again  |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 2, 2014 21:23:02 GMT
This is that truck and ramp  |
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Post by horselady on Mar 3, 2014 1:11:53 GMT
It seems to me a steep incline that might be slippery, is he wearing shoes,? and perhaps the noise is not what he is used to. and trust me, it only takes one time as you know to have a horse decide he is not going to be the good boy and get his heiney in the truck. sooo perhaps make the ramp a little longer so when closed it goes to the top of the trailer.
and sides on the ramp to cause the horse to follow the route up. even if you use panels of some sort.
or perhaps build it with a piece to extend and after the horse is on the extension folds on top of the other piece. i have seen them made with piano hinge and perhaps put rubber or carpet on the ramp to muffle the sounds
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Post by nhg on Mar 3, 2014 5:10:56 GMT
Wow, that's a steep ramp! I'd want to back it up to a slope or something so it's at a better angle. I have a super quiet horse that will do almost anything for me and I doubt he'd go up that. I'm impressed that your horse has gone up it before.
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 3, 2014 13:19:40 GMT
In europe most ramps are steep, for me its more pleasant here that the trailers dont have ramps and seem to load easier!
One thing I would say is ensure that when stood on the ramp doesnt bang down, we used to put bricks under to level it off better making it stable, even the stabilisier bars werent enough, just step on it yourself and jump up and down and youll feel if its touching the ground ok or bouncing.
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Post by horselady on Mar 3, 2014 15:10:22 GMT
DDDUUUHHHH !!!! Now why didn't I think of backing on an incline. have done that many times to level off the ramp for horses to walk in much easier . THANKS for the reminder.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 3, 2014 19:09:00 GMT
Non of my horses have problems with going in on that ramp, it doesn't bounce. Even that stallion was always going in with no problems, until that day when we changed truck with trailer.
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 3, 2014 19:17:00 GMT
itll just take time then, I had a horse that got injured in the trailer when it jackknifed, the next 3 or 4 times he was hesitant and nervy, have you tried a flag, a stick with a bg or flag just get somone off to the side of him tapping above his hocks but they have to stop as soon as he moves forward, if he stops continue again, its more of an irritant than smacking them.
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 3, 2014 23:44:30 GMT
get somone off to the side of him tapping above his hocks but they have to stop as soon as he moves forward, if he stops continue again, its more of an irritant than smacking them. We had to do something similar with my first mare - it was the only way we'd get her to load. We had been at a show one day when I was about 14, and she just wouldn't get on the trailer. This big ol' cowboy came over and was like "Give me your whip!" He must have seen the look on my face, cause he softened his voice and told me he wasn't going to beat her. He just stood in front of her and started tapping her on the chest with the whip. And on she walked. Amazing! And it worked every time! |
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