Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 17, 2015 8:22:09 GMT
You know recently we brought home new stud Slavko. He has been a big sweetheart towards me and my father and mares. He has even been outside in a pasture with them. He behaves good and is easy to catch.
But I have a big problem with him because he wants to fight with my other stallion. We tried to put them close to each other. It was badddd. He just can't stand him, he will yell, paw at him, kick, bite. I noticed it first when we were riding, my father could not come close to me with my stallion because Slavko would charge at him. I had to put him a Thom thumb JoMarie send me,because I am scared I will lose control and he will hurt me, my father and my horse.
I am not smart what to do, because we can't put them even near, because I am scared he will break free and kill my stallion. I don't know how to sort this aggression toward other males.
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Post by horselover4life on May 17, 2015 11:22:01 GMT
Breeding males, can be aggressive toward another male.
It is common to see aggression between breeding males as they fight for the right to breed....
Regardless of what you do now, he was allowed to act this way and now you have a domineering aggressive male on your hands.
Your stallion, was not permitted to act in this manner so he doesn't....someone did not do such a good job with the stud behavior part of Slavko upbringing!
Do not ever trust him.
Do not ever turn your back to him.
He is aggressive and you never know when that hostile aggression may strike at you or another horse.
I worked with breeding stallions, Quarter Horses.
They could be monsters if you allowed it, but were sharply disciplined for nastiness.
We rode in the company of other studs and mares at the same time, all the time.
We did not do anything to inhibit their natural behaviors except demand they behave nicely, listen under saddle doing their job.
As you know a stallion should be respectful and do his job under saddle quietly, someone really screwed up on this boy.
Pretty is nice, manners is better and respectful to human and other horses is best.
Don't know if you can "fix him" Lip...
Depending upon his age and how long he has been allowed to behave this way....
I was told when I worked with them that during menstruation to be especially careful. We emit a odor, a smell that they know what it is and it can make them unpredictable toward us too. {IDK}
Be very, very careful...never let your guard down with this horse. EVER!
To me, He Is NEVER To Be Trusted!!
Curious if you have bred him yet to any of the mares?
Is he rough to them?
I personally would not want a horse like that to own or on my property!
He is to much risk of hurting another including the mares....
I don't know if this is a trait they pass along through the genes or if this is from mis-handling...
I do know some attitude can be inherited. Saw that in Thoroughbreds and knew it also came from any male horse with a certain lineage stallion!! 
Maybe Lip, make dad ride and handle this one and you take your stallion and ride him somewhere else away from Slavko and his bad behavior...
I would not be taking this horse to any shows where you may encounter other stallions either and Slavko show his nasty side to prospective mare owners... 
jmo...
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Post by horselady on May 17, 2015 11:30:42 GMT
I totally agree with hl4l. You can never fix the natural aggression he has towards your other stallions.keep them far apart.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 17, 2015 14:20:12 GMT
This horse is 11, he is great with people, and mares. We breed him with mares, not ours, but he was gentle with the mare he was breeding with.
He rides well when he has his own space. When my stalliom gets close that's when he starts to ack up. You see a total change in his posture and behaviour. I have no problem leading him around mares on a halter or just roap around his neck. But he absolutely hates my stallion. I don't know how is he with others, but he despise mine. My stallion feels his aggression and backs away from him. I have never seen him do that, he was always confident around other stallions.
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Post by horselady on May 17, 2015 15:25:45 GMT
You have to remember that slavko is 11 and has not been raised by you and your father. he is going to dominate the other stallions and male horses as he feels he is the boss. in the wild he would fight for the mares and of course the one backing down would loose his girls to the winner. do.not not totally trust him . please. I raised my arabian stallion from a baby and he would NEVER be taken out of the stall or walked across the yard with out a halter and lead, i never used a nose chain and never will on a horse. but the temptation for being disrespectful is always there. On two occasions my stallion needed a whip to get him to stop fighting a tb stallion and one occasion he got out from his stall and into a field with mares and my geldings. he was wild. my personal gelding was bit and his sides were shredded from trying to protect the girls. and i needed to use a mare to lure him into the arena as he did not want to be caught. within an hour he was his old calm baby arabian that i raised. again take it slow and easy, you and your father do not want to be hurt, so please keep slavko away from your stallions and be safe.  |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 17, 2015 19:12:29 GMT
I only hope nothing bad will happen. I am afraid he will brake from a stall and go after my stallion. We have built him his own corral. So that mares , my stallion and Slavko can be separated but all outside. Because we don't want to breed all mares. And Slavko broke down the fence and got to mares. Thank God, my other stallion corral is far away from his. Fff. This will be tuff one. I can't belive how such a sweet horse can turn into monster in a second.
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Post by horselady on May 17, 2015 20:05:46 GMT
Stallions are reactive. they do not think when the hormones are in full swing. that is why be prepared. with lunge whip. water. and ropes. cause that is the only way you are going to get him away from another stallion when fighting. I have been there. i know.it is not pretty. the pounding and the screaming is like you never heard. i cut the tb stallion and sold him but i still l have 2 stallions in my arena. and in holding pens with 8 foot panels each one in place on alternate days so they can see the sun and get natural light and rain showers. .stallions are not for all people and thankfully your father and you are aware of the headaches involved.
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on May 17, 2015 20:32:54 GMT
Agree with HL & Hl4L. Even though you trust your stud. I wouldn't trust the new one. He has shown aggression towards the other stud. Don't EVER turn your back on him no matter how calm he acts. They can change in a heart beat. My bff back home had a percheron stud grab her by the shoulder and flipped her around like a pancake and was trying to drag her into his paddock. Luckily someone came around the corner and he dropped her. You raised yours so he was taught manners. The one I took care of had great manners. You didn't even know he was a stud. It took me a long time to totally trust him. But always had an eye on him.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 17, 2015 20:33:06 GMT
Oh I have been there. We use to have 4 stallions at same time. These one is definitely not socialized properly. I handled stallions since I was 13, I have no fear with them. I owned breeding stallions all my life. I hope something could be done before something bad happens.
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Post by 1fatmule on May 17, 2015 22:31:27 GMT
The stallion I had was a perfect gentleman, and never overstepped his boundaries, or pushed the rule's. even though your stallion is well behaved, even to the point of not liking even being around the other stallion, the fight, or flight may kick in. the new stallion might be jealous of you too, and when he see's you paying attention to him, he could take it out on you. I also agree, anyone that handle's him need's to watch his every move!
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Post by nhg on May 18, 2015 2:04:13 GMT
I used to own a TWH stud. He was perfect being ridden around other horses if they were mares or geldings. I'd never have tried him around a stud for his sake and the other horses. I had him gelded about 7 tears ago and shortly after sold him to a friend so I know how he's been all this time as she still has him. They learn how to behave around other horses when they're young. The place that used him as a stud had three studs that were divided by two fences with about ten feet in between. There were no issues.
However, he's never learned to be nice around other horses. He was with my friend's bossy mare for several years and they didn't like each other but nobody got hurt. Other than her he's never gotten along with any other horses in a paddock or pasture setting. Unfortunately, I think it's too late to try to have your new stud learn to behave well around other studs. |
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on May 18, 2015 19:12:53 GMT
Thank you all for your concern. I will be careful. I still hope he will calm down, they don't have to love each other, I just want Slavko not wanting to kill Conversana (my stallion).
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