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Post by nhg on Nov 23, 2014 15:56:17 GMT
Brodie has a problem with dirty ears. He's half cocker spaniel so it's not surprising but I'm cleaning them every few days to keep them clean and that's too often, it's not good for the natural balance in his ears. I knew there's a tie in between what a dog eats and dirty ears and I found this article. It also addresses dog gas. We're going to try having him on a different food than the other guys, who don't have dirty ears. Actually, Amigo gets it, too, but nowhere near as bad and I can keep it under control.
There's a good recipe for dog cookies in the article, too.
www.itchmo.com/your-dogs-ear-infections-may-be-linked-to-food-2383
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Post by mingiz on Nov 24, 2014 0:16:58 GMT
I had a cocker. Their ears are worst. I used an ear wash for her. They are also prone to yeast infections in the ears. To much hair and no enough air gets to them. I use to clip the underside of her ears. It helped.
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Post by nhg on Nov 24, 2014 1:50:23 GMT
I clip the hair and use a special ear wash every week or so and then use baby wipes in between every few days. I got him new food today so I'll see if that helps.
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Post by horselady on Nov 24, 2014 2:29:09 GMT
My vet suggest using yeast infection cream you buy now over the counter. others have suggested baby powder. and of course clip all hair away and if giving a bath to use cotton balls or ear plugs in their ears.
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Post by nhg on Nov 24, 2014 3:37:36 GMT
He's not getting baths. I'm worried that all the cleaning is affecting the PH balance in his ears. The worst ear has skin inside that's not as smooth as in the other ear. It's rough and a bit thick. If the new food doesn't help he's going to the vet.
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Post by diamondgirl on Nov 29, 2014 5:38:48 GMT
I am sorry, I have been so wrapped up in my own stuff I am just now getting to this. Buster gets ear infections, especially in the warmer months. He gets otitis externa caused by yeast. I have an ear wash prescribed by my vet, to use every few days. He hates it, but I usually do manage to pin him down, and fill both ears about once a week. Another thing, that I think helps is, when I see him asleep, I flip his ear over so air can get into it. That along with the ear wash, seems to keep his ears, from becoming a problem for him. The vet said his problem was caused by yeast, because of the excess moisture, because he has such long floppy ears.
When I was a kid we had a cocker with horrible ear problems. My Mom crocheted her a bonnet that held her ears up so air could circulate, and her ears could stay dry inside. I guess that might have been before the ear wash stuff we have now.
I don't know about the PH, but I think dry and clean would be the best for any dog. Dogs with floppy ears seem to have the most problems.
I am interested to hear how the new diet works. It seams like that would be a whole lot easier that flipping, dripping, and bonnets.
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Post by nhg on Dec 4, 2014 15:38:28 GMT
The diet doesn't seem to have made any difference. I called two vet clinics and it's about $150 to get him looked at. I don't have the money so if hubby wants to spend it he can. I'll just have to keep cleaning them for now. We have an ear wash that you put down in there and it's supposed to loosen the dirt and I'll keep cleaning it as well as I can otherwise. I keep reading to use a combination of water and vinegar to maintain the PH balance but I can't find a ratio of water and vinegar to use. Maybe I'll try the ear flipping thing DG and get it dried out. I feel like I have to clean it so often I'm not helping it get better. The skin on the visible area of that ear is a bit rough and thicker than the good ear. Poor guy. I do have to say that he doesn't poke at it and it doesn't seem to bother him nearly as much as it bothers me.
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Post by mingiz on Dec 4, 2014 17:20:05 GMT
I saw a post on face book were a person took a hair scrungy (sp) thing and pulled the ears up while they ate. Why couldn't you try that. Not sure how long the dog will let it stay there..But it would let it air out and dry up...
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Post by nhg on Dec 4, 2014 19:16:11 GMT
I had that post on FB with the puppies! Is that then one? It was so cute! He's booked in to be looked at tomorrow. We found a vet that's a little cheaper and my hubby wants him looked at so he gave me the money.
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Post by mingiz on Dec 4, 2014 23:35:23 GMT
I had that post on FB with the puppies! Is that then one? It was so cute! He's booked in to be looked at tomorrow. We found a vet that's a little cheaper and my hubby wants him looked at so he gave me the money. Yes that was the one.
Glad hubby at least cares about the dog.
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Post by nhg on Dec 5, 2014 5:09:17 GMT
I did check and Brodie's ears aren't long enough for a scrunchie. I'd have to clip together them or something. Which I doubt he'd appreciate.
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Post by nhg on Dec 6, 2014 16:09:08 GMT
He has a mild infection but she said I've been doing a good job of taking care of it. So he has antibiotic drops now. For reference, if anyone else has to deal with this she said that it would have been okay for me to clean them every single day while they were messy. I was trying not to clean them any more often than necessary in case I irritated them more than they already were. And he was a good boy at the vet and even went up to two people including a man in a cowboy hat! Brodie came to us terrified of men and more so of men in hats. He was even relaxed enough to lie down in the room while we waited for the vet to come in. He was shivering a bit and looked concerned when the vet examined him but he let her do everything and stood there like a trooper.He's come such a long way, I'm so proud of him.
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Post by horselover4life on Dec 7, 2014 0:59:09 GMT
I've been reading this, following with interest....
So, let me ask a question for those of you a whole lot more informed on their dogs and allergies than I....
We have a lab, male 2 1/2 years of age, neutered....very active and very smart.
We have him now eating Purina One Lamb & Rice food. He gets no "dog treats" other than his food...maybe an occasional table scrap.
So, he had a issue with a reaction to his last food where he chewed his feet pads so badly they bled and he was lame walking. We, vet and I narrowed it to his last food or dog treats he was then eating. Changed him to what he is now eating and has been on for some time with "0" issues and no foot biting. So you all know we got a horse at home...and horses poop and beyond my control our dog like to eat poop of the horse. Now again our dog is chewing his feet.... Could we be having a issue because of the poop eating? I know it sounds gross, it is...but it is also near impossible to keep him from the pasture/paddock area... Could he be getting a reaction because the poop he eats has horse feed pieces in it....there are oats and some corn, vitamins & minerals and other ingredients....mixed and processed. My horses are doing great on this so changing their feed isn't happening. I currently feed 2 1/2 pounds of "feed" a day per horse, if that, and they are plump, round and look healthy good!
I have limited dog food brands and availability and honestly I feed 2 large dogs so feeding things like Blue are ridiculously expensive and really not needed either. My dogs, both large labs are fed 1 cup twice a day per dog... they're good weight, energetic and healthy. I think my issue is eating the poop as the timing is correct with the re-occurrence of the feet chewing...
Oh...and ears and infection I hear you...our female lab loves to wash our" male dogs ears...she is a PIA about it...so soggy ears that breed "yuck". Never had a issue till we got the female and her "washing" compulsion...
So..what do you all think and any ideas or suggestions on how to proceed... Be kind please.. I am trying to find a reason, and a solution that works.
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Post by nhg on Dec 7, 2014 16:20:32 GMT
From what the vet said it sounds like if the feet are involved that tells you it's an allergy, as you already know. She thinks with Brodie he might have got water in his ears from the canal that runs behind our house. It's pretty dirty although it doesn't look like it, we're warned not to let a horse drink from it. Anyway, from what I looked up Brewer's yeast is a bad additive in dog food for allergies and the vet mentioned grains being bad so maybe the horse feed would be an issue. Also products that you use on your floors can do it. I know the Swiffer Wet Jet is bad for dogs.
The problem with dog allergies is that it takes weeks to see an improvement and it just takes one snack they shouldn't have to set them right back to where they started. I hear you about feeding cheaper brands. We have four dogs from 48 pounds up to almost 80 pounds. We can't afford to give them high end food. Blue actually isn't all that great anyway, by the way, they changed their formula since they first came out. I hate to say it but we've fed crap like Beneful and our dogs have all lived to good ages and have been healthy. We change their food every once in a while so it's not always the same to give them some variety or if something's on sale. We also don't bother slowly changing the food over, we just give them the new stuff.
You could try a raw diet but it's a PIA, it's pricey and the dog can then carry salmonella in it's mouth. Dogs that visit old folk's homes and hospital patients aren't allowed to be on a raw diet because of this. And if your guy is just going to get into stuff he shouldn't it's pointless.
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Post by Valhallanite on Dec 8, 2014 0:14:27 GMT
Just a thought.. could it be that the dog is trying to clean his feet from horse poop cows ? The reason I say this is that our dog sometimes will lick his feet incessantly, and it seems to be after a rain, and when I haven't cleaned up his poopy area outside. When it is muddy, sometimes I take the plant watering can out onto the deck and pour the water over his feet before he comes in. Then I let him walk around on the deck a bit to get most of the water off. Could it be that? Or maybe something else that externally is burning his feet? Just throwing it out there. Or maybe it is an allergy like you were thinking....
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Post by horselady on Dec 8, 2014 0:26:03 GMT
My thought is with him eating the poo and his dog food that sounds yummy he is getting way too much protein and is having an issue of what to do with all the energy and high protein levels. if it were me i would cut back the protein level on the dog food. keep it below 21 or 18 percent if possible. i bet what you are feeding him now is more like 28 or close to it . as for the female licking the males ears. put what is called yuk on his face and ears. it is bitter tasting and yes it is for dogs that lick all the time. a vet gave me the first bottle and i was amazed how the dog stopped licking his feet.
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Post by horselover4life on Dec 8, 2014 1:55:31 GMT
HL.... I have been using a product called Shriners {think that is the spelling} after talking with a friend down here. It is a herbal based "cure-all" with cayenne pepper in it....hot tongue my licker gets so she is not so quick anymore to "taste". My dog with the sore ears doesn't like the smell of it on the inside of his floppy ear, but his ear I think is feeling better. They aren't as fiery red as they had been...poor dog.
The feet...think it is the grains in the horses feed causing my issue. It was why we took him off his last food and he improved... When we had only the 1 horse I was able to keep him from the poop, so he roamed the paddock but didn't get into eating "ick"...now that we have 2 and more poop, not so easy to keep him from getting a morsel or two or three...GROSS!!
Don't get me wrong guys...it isn't we won't take the dog to the vet for his feet or ears...it is though a endless battle with the ears and our female with this compulsion..we have been vet bound before for this...can't break her of her habit and she is the cause... The feet, we have to figure a way to keep him out of the poop eating and we won't have a issue I am thinking. I was hoping to not have to re-fence my pasture...rather costly it will be...
I don't know about the protein levels HL...I will look into that too... call to my vet tomorrow I think is happening.
Thanks guys for the advice and help...it is greatly appreciated!!
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Post by nhg on Dec 8, 2014 2:05:11 GMT
I don't think anybody would think you weren't looking for him by not rushing to the vet. They're bloody expensive. It was $111.00 to take Bodie and that was a deal. The other 2 clinics were going to be $150.00 plus tax. If you can figure something out on your own go for it.
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Post by horselover4life on Dec 8, 2014 2:44:00 GMT
I don't think anybody would think you weren't looking for him by not rushing to the vet. They're bloody expensive. It was $111.00 to take Bodie and that was a deal. The other 2 clinics were going to be $150.00 plus tax. If you can figure something out on your own go for it. ...... With the help of my friends we are narrowing down what it could be and hopefully how to treat/prevent it without the vet intervention and a costly bill, again!
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