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Post by hugs on Sept 4, 2014 3:45:40 GMT
Had a three day weekend last weekend. Gerald was pretty insistent again about selling them all and me getting a babysitter. I thought it was a good idea because I am so EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED but then I just got so depressed. I LIKE my horses. They're good people, ya know?
The thing about talking to Gerald about this is that he can't get it that he has a particular style of training horses, of how he handles them, what he expects and all of that and it does NOT fit with Peaches. It doesn't make him wrong, it doesn't make her untrainable like he says. I definitely means that they aren't a good match. And so what?! PEACHES IS NOT GERALD'S HORSE! And I KNOW he doesn't want me to get hurt and MAYBE she is more likely to hurt me than a less reactive horse MAYBE. But something he isn't considering, I am uber cautious. And the ONE TIME Peaches went ape poopy was because he pushed her past her comfort level, way before she was ready. He ignored the signs of distress she was giving him. WELL, GUESS WHAT?! DON'T DO THAT!
We've all heard the expression, don't hurry I don't have the time to waste. It isn't pussy footing, its taking the time it takes.
Maybe I am being stupid in wanting to keep working with Peaches and spending the money on her to board her, but I figure if I get that place for $250, especially since I can't find a place closer any cheaper, I still have money to take lessons on a well trained lesson horse.
Now I just have to get the logistics of moving her down here, what a challenge that is going to be since I need to get Gerald to take the time to do it as I don't have the skills at this time. But I am saving for my own pickup and a small two horse stock trailer, so someday.
So why am I so nervous about this? I guess cuz its such a big deal. Wish this horse thing wasn't so nerve wracking.
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Post by horselover4life on Sept 4, 2014 9:46:46 GMT
 .....this bothers me.
" But something he isn't considering, I am uber cautious."
What happens the day you let your guard down or slip on always being on red-alert?
Moving Peaches...have you ever considered what it might do to the horses brain? Unglued a possibility?  Gerald only looks for your safety first then your enjoyment of your animals.... |
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 4, 2014 12:17:41 GMT
You are really stuck between a rock and a hard place with this huh? Is it going to be terribly expensive to move Peaches? if not, perhaps try this arrangement for a few months. If you are not seeing any progress, you then have her near you and with a trainer to help sell her.
Follow what your heart is saying but guide it with your brain.
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Post by hugs on Sept 4, 2014 15:30:48 GMT
The thing about Peaches is she is NOT a nut job. She lacks training and Gerald is accustomed to riding out the bucks and frankly not doing ground work. HE was the person who got bucked off, not me. Why? Because I wasn't foolish enough to take her out of the corral while riding her with NO GROUND WORK ON THAT ISSUE! Now who is being foolish?!
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Post by hugs on Sept 4, 2014 17:13:18 GMT
Hmmm... I thought I had posted...
Anyway, found place not too far from work with pasture boarding for $200! Gonna see it after work today. If I like it, I will write a check.
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Post by diamondgirl on Sept 4, 2014 19:40:26 GMT
When I had Diamond at the trainer, she bucked him off, went over with him twice, and nearly kicked him through the side of the barn. He rode the skin off my poor horse, and she wasn't any safer for me to ride, when I got her back, than when I took her to him. They weren't a good fit. Not even close. My trainer was a real cowboy, who tells a horse what he wants, and they comply, or he works them until they do. Diamond hated him.
I totally understand what you are saying about Geralds training style not being a good fit for Peach. She, like Diamond, would rather be asked, than told, and when the request comes as an absolute demand, they not only refuse, but react. I say Stormy is my heart horse, but Diamond is my soul mate. If I am a little sad when I am near her, and I sigh, she will put her nose on my cheek and sigh. When I hug her, she bends her neck around me and me back. If I am looking at something off in the distance, she will put her head over my shoulder and look too.
She isn't a baby sitter type of horse, and I can't do some of the things I think I might want to do with a horse, but I am happy with her, and the relationship we have.
There must be a reason you love Peaches so much. She might never be a horse that you can just sit on, and ride, for mile after mile, but she might be so much more. |
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 4, 2014 19:44:53 GMT
Very well put DG.
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Post by hugs on Sept 4, 2014 21:07:22 GMT
I agree, very thoughtful. So many folks are looking for a "using" horse, I also want a "being with" horse, I've learned a lot about all kinds of things, horses included, training Peaches. She isn't a dog and I know that, but you know how deeply gratifying it is to have a horse trust you. Now I gotta work on what it will take for me to trust Peaches which is a large part of respect and trust from her.
So I asked the "expensive nice lady" about lessons. I hope she has shorter horses than the TBs I saw there!
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Post by hugs on Sept 5, 2014 3:03:01 GMT
I was telling Gerald about all of this and he was pretty closed mouth. I know when he isn't in the conversation that he's either uninterested or has something to say that he knows I won't like to hear. He is convinced that Peaches is mentally ill, pure and simple. I tried to talk to him on several occasions that perhaps he is accustomed to riding not ground training and perhaps he is accustomed to a certain horse personality. But I think its his ego that won't let him admit that he doesn't actually know it all. And what is so wrong with me having a horse to train that doesn't result in riding out on a trail within X number of days? Maybe this particular journey is the prize in and of itself? That simply doesn't click with him at all.
The other thing is, where I live now there are plenty of lesson horses to ride. I could ride a different horse every day of the week if I could afford it. And at $200/month, I can afford lessons once a week for sure, since the other cheapest place was $250
Lois, the wife/co-owner of BMW stables is about my age and has been into horses her whole life. I like her, very down to earth and thoughtful. They have separate paddocks about 10 to 15 acres for 5 to 6 horses each. Not enough grass to feed them all, worming once every two months I think they said and once a day they bring the horses to these open stalls to feed a grain mix they grind up every two weeks so its fresh and to ensure maximum nutrition. They do this for two reasons, to supplement the nutrition in the hay but also to check on each horse every day.
There are three round pens which can be connected and a very large outdoor arena that is set up for calf sorting, goat tieing and other games. Lois hosts Western Heritage, which is a kind of 4H training for those kinds of skills, once a week from April through August, so that will be fun to watch.
AND there are miles of trails from the place and criss crossing their place with field and forest as well a their neighbors. Everyone uses it all year so the trails stay groomed and if something should happen you won't be far from help.
Each boarder is given a tack closet which can be locked although most aren't. At least I won't have to worry about someone sitting on my tack trunk. The barn used to be an old dairy barn so its pretty big and nice and cozy at the same time with stalls galore and a sitting place in the milk house.
Wade raises the goats and calves and he also has pigs, chickens and peafowl! There is a blue heeler with cushings and of course all manner of cats. Plenty of parking and room for trailers. They don't believe in drama and they're more than willing to ask folks to go elsewhere who don't follow the golden rule.
Its only 20 miles from work, so I'll be there most every day. I still need to figure out my schedule to also go to synagogue, still so much to figure out with this move. Its a pretty heady experience.
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 5, 2014 12:20:55 GMT
That sounds like a fantastic place - and for the price, you couldn't have found a better place. Can't wait to hear all about your progress with Peaches as well as all the fun you will be having there! Pictures? |
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Post by Terry on Sept 5, 2014 14:37:57 GMT
I agree, this place sounds wonderful! I'm excited to hear all about your journey with Peaches there. I also agree with what you said earlier, that sometimes the journey is the prize! Enjoy!
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Post by diamondgirl on Sept 5, 2014 18:59:42 GMT
I am happy for you, and Peaches. I can't wait to see the pictures.  |
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Post by hugs on Sept 6, 2014 1:43:27 GMT
Thanks, still a little nervous though, but then I get nervous easy.
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Post by Lipizzan on Sept 6, 2014 12:29:06 GMT
It is not all about riding. When you realise that and start to spend time with your horse just because you enjoy it, you will start to learn more about her and she will learn more about you. She will accept you as her own herd member and will be able to trust you no matter what. It can't be done overnight, maybe it will take a year, but once you manage to gain such a trust it will never be broken. I had a big trust problem with horses when I was younger, always riding with a fear, horses pick that up quickly. In their head is "there must be a reason she is nervous so I should be to". One time when I was 15 I was just sitting on a grass in a pasture and looking at my mare who I love dearly, and thinking how would be like a dream to ride her tackless and bareback on that field, but I was afraid because I have never done it. I guess in that point and the way she was looking at me and almoust telling me don't be afraid I just said to myself all or nothing. I am done being afraid. I hop on her, and first just sitting and thinking "ok that is not to bad", the thought that I don't have no control except my trust in her and hers in me was beautiful. Then I grab her main and made her run and boy she did. My heart was beating like crazy , but it was soooo exciting I could die that moment happy. From that day one. I have deep trust in my horses, because I know there is no point in being afraid. I swear when I was on her I was thinking "even if I fall and brake something it was wort it".
Trust your horse, trust your instincts, spend time with her, don't listen to others, listen to yourself and your heart, and you will see that there is nothing more beautiful then that. :)
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Post by diamondgirl on Sept 6, 2014 12:59:59 GMT
I liked what you said so much Lip, I wanted to hit the like button twice. |
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Post by Lipizzan on Sept 6, 2014 13:32:22 GMT
Just speaking from my heart. And unfortunately in my heart there is no grammar checker, hehe. I will have to correct my spelling. Don't mind me please.  |
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Post by hugs on Sept 6, 2014 19:41:24 GMT
Lipiz; I see how and why trust progresses, that's a wonderful story. Peach and I may never have that kind of adventure, we will have our ups and downs but at least we won't have to wait weeks between.
And even with the gaps Peaches remember everything. Its so gratifying to build than repeat. And this place will let me bring in a trainer so it may just surprise everyone me included what we can accomplish.
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.....this bothers me.
