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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 2:02:47 GMT
So, y'all have seen the gelding I think is cute and would love to get if finances permit in the summer. (thread here if you missed it: clicky) Well, I'm also kind of in love with this filly. She'll be 1 year old in May. I dunno, I just thinks she's the cutest little thing. But her price tag is of course way more than adopting a rescue horse - she's for sale for $3500! She is 77% Arab and is registered with the Canadian Partbred Arabian Register. I've met her once when she was about 2 months old and she is just fearless and curious and sweet. I really really like her and had my heart set on her until I saw the gelding. So now I'm torn - gelding is cheaper and can start under saddle in a year. Filly is gorgeous, registered, I've met her and know her personality, but pricey. I want to start dressage lessons as soon as I have a job, so she would be primarily a dressage horse and part time trail horse. On the one hand, I like the idea of getting a rescue horse. On the other, I like knowing the filly's history and breeding. What do you think of her? 12 hours old 12 hours old One week old One month old Two months old Two months old 11 Weeks 11 Weeks 11 Weeks 7 months 7 months
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 13, 2014 6:15:04 GMT
They both have such amazing color. Beautiful filly. I would like to have her also :-)
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 6:38:51 GMT
She is pretty, eh? I can't believe how much her colour changed over 7 months! I want her soooo much!
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 13, 2014 12:10:52 GMT
She is stunning, see if they will do payments The trainer who broke Isis said dont touch rescues or cheaply priced youngsters as you are encouraging bad breeding and backyard breeders and dont really know what you are getting. I think I recognise her, is she from Spoons?
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 13, 2014 12:30:08 GMT
She looks like a real Arabian. One of the most beautiful fillys I have seen in a long time. Go for it :-)
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 14:43:17 GMT
They will do payments with I think 20% down and board payments after 3 months. The breeders are the people I bought Lucy off of. Not Spoons - the place is called Wild Timber Ranch and is down near Olds. I don't want to encourage backyard breeders, but this couple is pretty serious about what they do. And this one is soooo pretty. I just can't justify it right now since I'm not working and don't really have the spare cash. But I waaaaant her!
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 13, 2014 15:19:36 GMT
That seems fair, I didnt mean as in they are back yard breeders, I meant the horses that go super cheap like 3-400, at the price of yours I dont class that as backyard!
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 15:25:39 GMT
Ugh, the price hurts! LOL I'm hoping if I wait, it will drop. The foal they had out of Lucy dropped $800 over about 8 months...I really wanted him but someone snapped him up. Will have to keep an eye on her. I'm hoping since she's not even a year old, people will hold off on buying her cause she would just be a mouth to feed for another 2 years, so I might have time. They have/had some pretty good looking foals: For Sale Page Lucy's "baby" is the bay, Leroy Brown. This girl is Dixieland Delight. Ugh, I want them all!!
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 13, 2014 15:30:17 GMT
Oh my, mom is pretty too!
I dont blame you, you need a lottery win for them all though!
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 16:31:17 GMT
Oh, don't even get me started on her mum!! Her name is Ice and I'd take her in a heartbeat! She is stunning. But I've always had a thing for buckskins and palominos - so if I got baby, I'd have one of each! (Plus, I've had a grey - IMPOSSIBLE to keep clean! LOL)
Yes, definitely need to win the lottery! Fun to dream though!
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 16:34:58 GMT
Also, another thing to consider in the debate of this baby vs the rescue gelding - I know the breeders, would know baby's background, and I know the breeders will be working with her to get her halter broke, good with feet, etc. From what I've read about the rescue, it appears they don't do all that. o she'd have a good start. Plus, how cute is the name Dixie?
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Post by lorddaxter on Mar 13, 2014 18:18:20 GMT
Also, another thing to consider in the debate of this baby vs the rescue gelding - I know the breeders, would know baby's background, and I know the breeders will be working with her to get her halter broke, good with feet, etc. From what I've read about the rescue, it appears they don't do all that. o she'd have a good start. Plus, how cute is the name Dixie? :) Exactly, thats why Rayanne told me not to buy rescues or cheap cheap(of course I already did that!)she said they have more issues and conformation problems(mine do!)....obviously there are exceptions but do ya feel lucky?!!!! Dixie is cute:)
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Post by horselady on Mar 13, 2014 20:33:25 GMT
I need to disagree to a point with rescues. i do rescue and have some real nice sound horses here for adoption. and i have taken in some owner turn in"s that are ready for the show ring. it all depends on where you go and what the circumstances are regarding the youngster.
too bad the gelding is going to another home and that filly is stunning. but the price seems high to me. yet again in canada your prices are higher than here in the states.
you have a good eye shadowlark. she looks straight and alert and has a keen eye. so keep a look at the web site and perhaps her price will come down
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Post by Lipizzan on Mar 13, 2014 20:46:06 GMT
I also agree with horselady. Those horses still need a home. And I would rather adopt a horse then buy one if I could. But I also agree that there should not be recless breeding. With that kind of breeding comes to many deformations, inbreeding that can cause inbreeding depressions, and lots of not really good stuff. Horses that are bred should have their history known.
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 21:29:27 GMT
Oh, I am a big fan of rescues when done properly. I'd love nothing more than to have a rescue one day. BUT from what I've heard about this particular rescue, they go to a lot of auctions, currently have about 150 horses, and don't really do much training with them, which I don't think is good. Yeah, it's great the horses are saved and not sent to slaughter, but I think they would have a higher adoption rate if they had fewer horses that they could actually work with and make more enticing to a potential adoptor. If I were to have a rescue, I'd only take in as many horses as I could realistically work with on a regular basis. Some of the horses this rescue has aren't even halter broke, let alone had work done with their feet/teeth/etc. Versus this filly, who from 12 hours old was being imprinted with human contact (they have pics of her at 12 hours old with their kids hugging her). She's been exposed to things like umbrellas and sweaters being thrown in the air, and "scary" things like that. And I know the owners will start her slowly and gently with halter breaking and picking up her feet and all that. I don't know a lot about Arabs, but here's her pedigree if anyone knows anything about them: ClickyI wish I could have them both!
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 22:51:33 GMT
Having said all that about this rescue in question, they just rescued half a dozen or so Clydesdales - which I've always wanted. I was actually looking for a Clydesdale after Maddy died, but ended up with Lucy.
Man, I really need to win the lottery!
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Post by horselover4life on Mar 13, 2014 22:55:09 GMT
She is beautiful for a coming yearling...which makes me have a question...
You mention if you acquire her doing dressage... The way she moves with now flat knee extension is pretty...but to me her neck appears to tie in higher in her chest and a slightly shorter neck?
Is that the "baby" or anything to consider?
I love babies but am not well versed in looking at one for future dressage movements...
This one could have a residence in my yard too...but not at that price. I just will not pay that price for a baby, a real baby that so much time has to pass to start doing anything with it but ground handling.... Just to much can happen that can change the future use of that baby...then again I guess that is what insurance is for.
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 13, 2014 23:11:53 GMT
I honestly have no idea about what to look for in a dressage prospect. To be honest, I have yet to take any dressage lessons. I just know I can't do jumping anymore because of my knee, so I thought, "Why not dressage?" At that price though, I would definitely have some more knowledgeable dressage people look her over. There's a coach that comes to the barn regularly, just haven't set anything up yet, then winter came and my knee was really bad this winter, then I lost my job, so lessons are temporarily on hold I think part of the price is definitely the colour. But still, pretty high for a baby. And a lot to pay for something that may end up just being a trail horse. And yeah, if I do get another horse I'd like one that can start sooner rather than later. She's only 10 months old, so a long way to go before even considering riding her. Her are my hopes: 1. Start taking lessons, even if it's only once a month while I am unemployed. Some lessons are better than none. 2. Hopefully find a job soon. Come on phone, ring! 3. Start putting a little away each pay cheque, maybe $50/pay 4. If she is still available as she approaches 2 years old, maybe go see her. A lot depends on how quickly I can find a job. I hope I get one soon, because a)it sucks being poor and b)I've been out of work since mid-December, and I'm starting to get REALLY bored!
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Post by horselady on Mar 14, 2014 0:40:51 GMT
She is full arabian on the top side, with some great blood on the bottom side or her mom. she is qh, pinto and tennessee walking horse, and grade. sooooo that being said her color is making her price high. as for a dressage prospect, any horse can do dressage, or equitation. it is the 2 and third level that are particular of what breeds are in the dressage ring. so my thought is this, take some lessons first. and foremost. as you said save some money and keep looking at that rescue place and perhaps once in a while go there and interact with the horses. let the owners get to know you and perhaps by fall you will be ready. i bet something will hit you in the heart earlier than that and you will just grab the opportunity to have it.
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Post by shadowlark on Mar 14, 2014 1:36:06 GMT
Yeah, I definitely won't rush into anything, even when I do find a job. I wish I could take all of them!
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