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Post by horselady on Nov 18, 2017 19:40:19 GMT
i am dealing with one.. first one in all the years i have owned horses.. had the vet out and did you know that you are not supposed to give bute.?? well i did not.. it does not allow the infection to pop. vet also says to soak the hoof in epsom salts and put either the black goo or the green slime.. i chose the green slime. the infection came out just behind her hoof between the heel bulb and i can actually stick a knife into the hole about 1/2 inch.. she is way off on the foot.. and of course i have it wrapped. it has been 4 days since the infection is oozing out.. anyone know how long i have to soak. and how long this is going to cause her pain..  |
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 18, 2017 23:58:50 GMT
Anytime I dealt with hoof abscess, once ruptured the horse was "less" lame and more comfortable. Sore but not on their head sore...
I soaked as long as it oozed to keep cleaner along with using drawing salve, the black stuff, I used gauze-padding and wrapped.
I guess it was about 5 days drainage time and I would be positive it was clear of offending ooze so would probably err on the side of a extra day or soak.
You should be seeing visible proof on the wraps of puss fluid still evacuating the hoof interior. Not only seen but smell the foul scent of infection...
Depending upon the situation there were times when the ooze slowed that I did flush out with a curved tipped syringe...what I can't remember is what I flushed with {my mind just blanked}....
I did that flushing under vets guidance and instruction though, never on my own.
If you are not seeing improvement in another day, by Monday, I would call the vet for a phone consultation and update as a minimum if not a return visit.
I wonder if you have multiple abscesses brewing and readying to blow open in another area...keep your eyes open. 
Sometimes those abscesses seem to have several pockets of infection needing a escape route.
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Post by horselady on Nov 19, 2017 12:37:58 GMT
I am soaking it and the poor horse is dead lame.. head bobbing and pawing the ground with the hoof. i am going to call her tomorrow and have her come out and recheck. i just hope she did not do something and i need to exray.. i am afraid something might be broken. she is still ozzing some pus. smells awful.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 20, 2017 14:41:24 GMT
How is she this morning?
The head bobbing and pawing pain indicator bothers me, a lot!!
I know the vet said no bute...but as an anti-inflammatory I would think it would offer some relief of swollen tissues and a faster escape of the pus poisons...
I also did not know not to give it and did give it in the past...maybe something new?
So if no bute...then what can you give as this much discomfort is also not healthy for the animal...
Still such a strong odor makes me think she may have more than just a abscess but a true infection...
You may need x-rays to make sure she did not in-bed something in the hoof unknown about...she did something.
Hope she turned a corner last night and is better this morn...but I would still be getting in touch of not having the vet back out if nothing else for "peace-of-mind"...
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Post by horselady on Nov 20, 2017 20:00:35 GMT
I agree with you on all counts,, i was told by another vet to use "tomorrow" inside the infection.. and to use bute for the pain.. go figure.. put 10 vets in a room and get 11 answers.. she is still head bobbing. if this continues i will have to have her xrayed to see what else is going on.. thanks for your concern and wishes.  |
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 23, 2017 17:48:20 GMT
How is she doing today Jo?? Any improvement? .... |
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Post by horselady on Nov 24, 2017 12:15:47 GMT
How is she doing today Jo?? Any improvement? .... I used tomorrow in her hoof .. and she seeeem,s to be a bit better.. not constantly pawing the ground but eating and moving around the yard. easier... skipped soaking on thanksgiving and going to soak again and insert more of that cow mastitis medicine inside her hoof.. no the vet did not suggest to do it.. but someone i trust that has been working horses feet for 30 years. oh and i was told to give bute.. and that is what i am doing now.. thanks for asking.. |
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Post by horselady on Nov 27, 2017 19:17:46 GMT
on sunday she decided not to eat. i figured it was because of the pain meds.. well i took her off of them for two days prior.. i turned her out on my lawn and by night she was hungry.. i also gave her stomach pills and wet down her food with warm water and sugar.. perhaps that did the trick..
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Post by leli on Nov 29, 2017 0:09:35 GMT
It's possible the horse got a puncture in the sole of their hoof, and the abcess just blew out the back instead. I recall that being the case with a horse at the barn who had an abcess blow at about the same spot. It wasn't getting better like basically every other horse does after the abcess opens up, and the vet came out and I believe had to xray the entire foot to find the issue.
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Post by horselady on Nov 29, 2017 0:42:05 GMT
My vet did the hoof tester everywhere on her hoof and said that there should be a blow out. in the rear of the hoof.. i have a feeling it was from infection but not sure where it started. the 3 holes are still open and i am injecting with the tomorrow. ... today she is better and actually is walking with just a slight off step.. and is really hungry.. she is 34 years old, never sick a day in her life.. i will look for another hole just in case i am missing something.
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Post by horselady on Dec 4, 2017 19:15:24 GMT
Latest update is she is still gimpy on the foot.. used tomorrow again and will continue. calling a farrier out to retrim that hoof as it is longer than the others.. thankfully she is eating and walking and not feeling like she is in too much discomfort. no pain med at all. |
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Post by horselady on Dec 17, 2017 2:20:48 GMT
Update,, the mare was a bit gimpy so i looked at her foot and scraped out some dirt and her frog is loose.. not just the frog where it usually peels but the entire frog area from the heel to the point.. hubby says to leave it alone and someone i consulted about her abcess says to cut it off. i will wait and see what happens.
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Post by horselover4life on Dec 17, 2017 17:32:39 GMT
If she is shedding it naturally...
Till some new material is in place...
I think I side with hubby and would leave it be for now...
Keep it clean as possible and preventative treat so she now get compromised...
But remove it...owwww!!!
Not yet.
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Post by horselover4life on Dec 17, 2017 17:37:09 GMT
Have you any "original" Listerine or a generic?
50/50 with water and soak to kill any bacteria as cleaning it will be difficult and uncomfortable for her.
Cover her hoof while in a soaking boot and let her stand in the solution for 1/2 hour...
Some use ACV, but I was warned by my farrier to do so carefully as some horses have bad reactions to ACV touching their skin and nerve areas...
Do not use either though full strength as it is to strong..
Just a thought.
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Post by horselady on Dec 17, 2017 21:21:27 GMT
Listerine i have,, acv and i will leave it alone.. and check on it couple times of day... yes i think it will fall off on its own. |
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Post by horselady on Jan 12, 2018 1:16:21 GMT
since some time has gone by the mare is doing ok.. i checked on her hoof the other day cause i saw her a little gimpy again.. and her entire frog is gone.. concave,,, and ouchy.. i see new frog growing. so i just cleaned it up and sprayed it with perioxide and water.. and put her in the  .. |
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Post by horselady on Jan 28, 2018 0:33:50 GMT
Checked the mare again and her hoof looks and sounds like hard piece of wood. on the sole near the side of the frog. and i put pressure on it and out came some smelly oozze.. yup still infected. going to have the soaking and wrapping routine again.. perhaps give penn g shots to help?
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 29, 2018 16:37:11 GMT
Have any Bannixx?
Heard good things about it with deep hoof rot...
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Post by horselady on Jan 29, 2018 19:47:07 GMT
never heard about that
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 29, 2018 22:15:53 GMT
It is what I've heard, not first hand knowledge.  Supposed to kill the bacteria and diseased tissue but not hurt the live healthy tissue.... Works good on rain rot and on surface abrasions, this I have seen my friends used it on. I know Tractor Supply by me carries it, think it is quart size and won't break the bank like a lot of topicals do lately. |
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