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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 16:28:14 GMT
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 16:46:54 GMT
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Post by lorddaxter on Jul 24, 2015 16:49:32 GMT
Ooh, youre getting shirty on there lol!
Looks like it to me too though!
Not cheap either!
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 16:55:30 GMT
Ooh, youre getting shirty on there lol! Looks like it to me too though! Not cheap either! Should I remove my comments? That dingdong isnt even the seller! |
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 17:01:02 GMT
I removed my last comment, but its OBVIOUS that she painted the hooves for that reason,., gimma a break!! Those are NOT variated colors in the hoof, they are fever rings,.., and the seller is trying to hide it with the paint job  I hate when someone thinks they need to be my moral compass,.., especially when the pictures speak for themselves. At minimum, that horse has had some bout with laminitis RECENTLY! If not, founder. IMO. |
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 17:30:14 GMT
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 18:09:24 GMT
Now the seller says she has those 'desirable' black feet in paints,.., huh?? Those feet might be darker. But they are PAINTED black with hoof polish,., not to mention THE RINGS!! Omgoodness,., is it just me    |
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Post by lorddaxter on Jul 24, 2015 18:37:16 GMT
Lol!.....I would have left my comments, you were right, I was just yanking your chain!......I didnt realise she wasnt the seller, its so obvious they are hiding it!
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Post by horselady on Jul 24, 2015 20:23:28 GMT
You are right, but they could be food change or environment change from cold to hot and vise versa or fever rings. they are on all 4 feet and in about the same place. and they are giving you stupid remarks for your comment, instead of saying yes to the rings and why. they are avoiding the question which makes me cringe. why.
also the horse is always either under front or stretched out front. i would stay away and not even ask further information.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 20:34:33 GMT
I would have thought the same thing looking at those feet. What is with that one girl? It isn't even her horse, for the love of God people are allowed to ask questions, not everything has to be done via private message.
Frankly, her snarky comments on the thread turn me off the horse more than anything else, again, it isn't even her horse so why does she care?!
I agree the rings are not necessarily founder or laminitis, but do indicate she went through some sort of major change, be it food, temperature, stress... whatever - something caused them and I would be curious as too what.
I don't like much else about her. I think you could find something much better for that price.
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Post by redzip on Jul 24, 2015 20:43:54 GMT
I really wonder, IF, with such heavy rings, whether she would be sound with hoof testers? I wonder if she will post videos?? Hummm?? |
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Post by horselady on Jul 24, 2015 23:25:22 GMT
red, pm the seller and see if you can get some answers and by pass the snarky busybody. i do not think the mare is sound. but perhaps with time off she will be ok. those rings are deep. and i suspect fever. i wonder if she lost or had a foal and went into toxic syndrome.??
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Post by redzip on Jul 25, 2015 2:39:58 GMT
I wondered if it was a foaling issue also?
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Post by nhg on Jul 25, 2015 4:25:01 GMT
I have to say it, they don't look that bad to me. I don't think it's founder. She doesn't look like a horse that's foundered to me at all body wise. I think the hoof polish was just an attempt to make her look good which is nice because so many horses are advertised and are not even brushed. It's possible they had her somewhere like a local show and used the hoof polish and felt that those were the best pictures they had of her. I also don't see anything that would make me suspect she's unsound, I think they're just trying to stand her up for a picture.
I once had an ad for a horse I was selling and someone pointed out that in every picture he had the same back leg forward while standing. They figured it showed he had a soundness issue and he didn't it was the way I was getting him to stand and I didn't notice. |
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Post by redzip on Jul 25, 2015 10:56:25 GMT
There is obviously something going on with this horse's feet.., The rings indicate an issue. It is NOT natural for a healthy hoof to have that appearance,.., Having dealt with a horse that had founder/ laminitis issues, and a lifetime of chronic abscess's, I would personally avoid a horse with hooves that had that appearance, at all costs. I also 'believe' the hoof polish is being used to hide the natural appearance of the hooves, in these sale pictures. JMO This mare might be trimmed down now, weight wise, but she does have QH bloodlines, of which certain ones are notorious for crappy feet, and an 'easy keep' tendencies that lead to said crappy feet. I would be almost positive that she has to be dry lotted as a regular management practice, I doubt she does well on grass. She also might be insulin resistant?? IDK? But to me, the hooves scream - BIG PROBLEMS. Sorry, but JMO. www.progressivehorse.co.uk/html/unhealthy_hooves.html |
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Post by redzip on Jul 25, 2015 11:33:53 GMT
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Post by nhg on Jul 25, 2015 22:41:53 GMT
Oh Red, you made me laugh with the Googler comment! I'm not saying you're wrong I just don't see the rings as that severe, maybe I just don't see well, that's a definite possibility. Also, her weight is great. I'd think she'd still have a bit of a neck if she had foundered. You're certainly right about how many breeders have bred the feet out of stock horses. On an interesting note, when I came out of the hospital after almost four months my nails grew weirdly. They'd angle down at the end of my finger instead of being a nice level shape. I cut them back and now that they've grown again they look normal. So I guess it can happen to our 'hooves', too, when we have issues. |
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Post by carshon on Jul 27, 2015 13:50:58 GMT
Our horses had/have deep rings from when the grass came on this spring. Even with very limited turn out 2 of the 4 started having some separation in their hoof wall and very slight tenderness on the soles. Those two were removed from the pasture ASAP but the damage had been done - even after only an hour a day on the pasture. We had a HUGE amt of rain this spring and the pastures were too lush and green/
My hubbies mare had 2 shots of Excede (a very powerful antibiotic) two weeks apart and the rings they left on all 4 of her hooves are very obvious to anyone looking at her feet. The hooves tell a story - the show when a horse is vaccinated - had a diet change - rode too hard for too long etc.
RED that was a good catch on this mares feet - and I hope others looking at that horse read your post and ask questions.
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Post by horselady on Jul 27, 2015 18:24:37 GMT
The rings are a tell tale sign of what happened in the months before. BUT after a year the hoof can and will grow out normal again and the signs will disappear. the only true test of founder is xray to determine coffin bone rotation.
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Post by redzip on Jul 28, 2015 1:34:05 GMT
I'm sure this little mare is probably sound, but I agree^^,.., SOMETHING significant happened to cause the feet to look like that,., especially the fact that the rings are on the fronts more so, and not on the backs also And I do agree that over time, with regular trims, it can removed,., but xrays are in order for any buyer interested, as well, some honesty as to whats up with those fronts. JMO |
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