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Post by horseless on Jan 13, 2015 12:51:19 GMT
Ive been starting the planning of getting my property horse ready for the future. Right now our focus is clearing the brush, and fill in to level the area out.
Of course my mind is way ahead of myself. And I was starting to think of barns. Unfortunatly my husband works and aweful lot, so Im pretty sure we wont be able to build our own. I stumbled across these pre-built amish ones that look pretty nice. I was looking at a 2 stall shed row, with tack/feed room. Any opinions on these barns?
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Jan 13, 2015 13:32:41 GMT
I've thought about having a pre-built put in if I ever move to a property without a barn. But I don't have Amish here unfortunately.
Do you have a picture? Are they wood or metal? I worry about the metal ones because, as you know, if there is something nearby a horse can hurt itself on, it will.
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Terry
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Post by Terry on Jan 13, 2015 13:50:29 GMT
I'd love to see pictures. Picking out a barn can be so much fun.
We picked out a plan for the shell of our pole barn from Menards. We had to hire a contractor to put it up and, in the process we tweaked the plan a bit. Once the barn itself was up, hubby and I finished the interior our way in our free time on the weekends. It took a while for us to get the inside done (and there's always new things to do ), but I love the way my barn turned out. Of course, after using it for years, if I knew then what I know now, I would have done a few things differently, but I still love my barn.
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Post by horseless on Jan 13, 2015 14:41:30 GMT
heres a picture from there website, the company is not in our state unfortunately but they will deliver it to our area if that's the route I decide to go. you can see more pictures on their website to get a better idea.
www.horizonstructures.com/shedrow-horse-barns.asp
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 13, 2015 14:54:44 GMT
I wanted to go with a Horizon Structure built barn....they deliver all over the east coast of the USA too. Depending upon where you live the prices can flucuate a lot. www.horizonstructures.com/ They are not cheap but I have seen some that are near 30 years old and still in great condition. They had a great warranty when I researched barns. Except for a wood preservative "painted" on every few years the barn I know of has had minimal upkeep needed done to it....granted the horses who live in it are not beavers nor destructive beasts. This is the one I wanted with a added 12' wide overhang.... www.horizonstructures.com/shedrow-horse-barns.asp I wanted the 4-stall {12x12} with the tack/feed room as a additional 8x12 or larger space.... This design also allowed me to go to a "L" shape easily and have 2 common walls for more storage space for the future...it only takes money but truly is not that bad a $$.
Now I have a pole barn as we live in the south and freezing temps are not a problem but good air circulation and cooling breeze is. My pole barn my husband and I finished with 3 12x12 stalls and a 18' plus overhang for shade for the horses.... My barn is 36'x36' rough dimensions, it is actually slightly larger but inside the "poles" is that size...by the time we were done with all the materials and labor was my own sweat equity... whew!! It would of been cheaper to buy it than build it if I had to pay a carpenter though. Our ability to build and swing a hammer made a huge difference in $$ outlay for us....thousands, many thousands!!
Where you live, you need a barn that has solid sides and capabilities of a breeze or closed up against the winter nastiness.
Morton Barns also made some nice barns, again pretty pricey.
Wood and concrete would be my preference if I still lived on Long Island do to the changing weather conditions, ice and load on roofs and the hot of summer swelter...they insulate better than metal and are just plain safer imo...no feet or legs through sharp metal walls if you don't line them with wood anyhow...
When you get to the point of barn building bounce some stuff off of us here...many of us have backyard barns and some ideas of layout, amenities and necessities we would love to share. Some also live in cold climate winter, warm summer as you do and could add some useful hints for you too I am sure... For now dream the dream we all have, then.... Happy shopping.
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 13, 2015 15:01:57 GMT
Oops, you were typing and posting same as I was....
See, you like what I liked in barns...
Cheaper to deliver to you, or at least to LI than to me in Florida.... by many thousands.
One thing I will advise you on is do a overhang...it makes a difference and do that overhang not less than 4' wide. 8' is better and 12'++ is best simply as it gives you a place to cross-tie and work on the horse out of the weather if needed. It protects the stalls and things under the barn from rain blowing, bad weather of snow and most importantly....it keeps you out of weather precipitation when doing chores, feeding and such... I have metal panels between my stalls and in any barn I worked in it was nicer ventilation than a solid wall and allowed the horses to see each other but not touch or squabble with each other when stalled or eating....a private protected spot for them to be.
Enough from me.....
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Jan 13, 2015 21:07:59 GMT
A friend of mine back home had an Amish built 2 12x12 horse stalls with tack room. It was well made with tongue and groove boards. Her hubby put a upper partition in it using rebar and 2x4's. It was a nice little barn. It was like the one you showed but stalls were on opposite side. Agree with HL4L get a longer over hang for it. Later they bought another one and ended up with an L shaped barn. I have a 24x40 metal barn. I still need to put stalls etc. in it. I have a shell for now...
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Post by diamondgirl on Jan 13, 2015 22:35:36 GMT
All I have now is a Sturdy bilt (Amish) 12X24 run in with a tack room. I never use the tack room. Oh dream dream dream. Someday I want a nice warm barn. I like the shed row barn. It looks very nice.
I also got a garage from them. The only problem I have had with my Amish built garage was , we lost some shingles, but it was late November when they built it on my property. All I had to do was give them a call, and they came right out to fix it, which was nice.
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Post by horseless on Jan 14, 2015 0:29:55 GMT
Thanks for all the input! After talking with my hubby a bit, I might ask a friend of his who is a carpenter to give me an estimate for building the same barn. He said that hes sure his friend can build it for much cheaper. So we will see. But for now.....I dream and focus on the tasks I need to worry about before the barn can be built.
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 14, 2015 0:57:09 GMT
Just remember that barns need to be built with better than average wood...it makes a difference not to use Home Depot or Lowe's grades of lumber... Quality grades of lumber are expensive! Extra strengthening in walls, overhead beams, roofing trusses. Build to code or better...do the permitting as needed or you may regret all of it. If you do electric and or water...do it right. Frost-proof water hydrants, electric running through heavy steel conduit so it isn't munched on by varmints... if not wired by a electrician, certified to be done properly is a must for insurance coverage...even your homeowners policy will dictate certain requirements be met. Don't cut corners...you can see who has done that and the result shows in a short period of time. Be as safe as you can make that barn...it will hold members of your family once done....4-legged ones and you will be inside for extended periods of time...be safe!! My barn houses normal saddle horses, quarter and paints, thoroughbreds...but it is built to withstand a insane draft horse trying to kick the place down to safeguard my building investment and my horses. I also have termite protection in, on and under the ground...something to also think about as termites and wood eating critters are everywhere. For me, in my climate...a must.
More things to think about...
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Post by horselover4life on Jan 14, 2015 1:06:30 GMT
Start researching now online for barn plans....some places have free plans with great layouts. If you need "certified" plans for permits they can cost but not terrible. Detailed instructions, lumber shopping list and hardware needed....
What ever your friend thinks it is going to cost add half more again, ..then once you build if you change anything like I did it will cost you more possibly. I love my barn and am glad we made the changes as we did... My only regret is I should of made it larger... I was warned and we did make it larger, and now.... I have run out of hay storage space because I did not plan space enough for 3 horses forage needs... stupid, stupid, stupid!! I can fix mine though easy enough by adding one more set of poles and roofing panels, wood planks and such...it is only money to find to do it now though...my barn is forgiving in making it larger because it is what it is...a pole barn.
More to think about...
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Terry
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Post by Terry on Jan 14, 2015 1:11:49 GMT
Nice looking little barn! I like it!! I agree with what others have said, though... add an overhang (the bigger the better)! Trust me, you'll be glad you did!
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Post by horseless on Jan 14, 2015 3:36:57 GMT
Thanks for all the info horselover! Youve given me much more to think about.
Didnt think of the overhang until all of you mentioned it.
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Post by horseless on Jan 16, 2015 20:05:16 GMT
well just an update, after much discussion, we have decided to build it ourselves. I found a few sites that we can purchase floor plans from, with all the details, including full lists of all materials needed. my father who was a house builder talked me into it, we will have lots of experienced help. And it will be something we can work on over time. probably wont be able to start it for another year or so, but we have a plan! The one we decided on has two 12x12 stalls, and a 6x10 tack/feed room with a 10ft overhang in the front.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Jan 16, 2015 20:43:45 GMT
I built my barn with help from one other person. The worst part was getting the foundation ready and the biggest support poles right. Be sure you are on level ground that, preferably, is higher than the ground around it. Of course once you start, pictures are required of the progress!
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Post by horseless on Jan 16, 2015 20:57:53 GMT
I built my barn with help from one other person. The worst part was getting the foundation ready and the biggest support poles right. Be sure you are on level ground that, preferably, is higher than the ground around it. Of course once you start, pictures are required of the progress! oh trust me when it goes down there will be an abundance of pictures! Ive been dreaming of building a barn since i was a little girl. Now comes the hard part...waiting..lol
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redzip
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Post by redzip on Jan 18, 2015 18:42:06 GMT
I've always really liked those Amish built (portable) barns bc they are simple. You tend to get a lot for the money, bc they are very solid built, come ready to use, and have resale value, when you upgrade, move, etc. Agree with ones with an overhang,., bc you will wish you had it, if you don't get it. If we had a smaller acreage, or ever downsized to a smaller acreage, I would seriously consider an Amish built 'stable/barn'.
Its worth looking into a pole barn company also, if you have desire for a more permanent structure. Pole barns add a lot of extra square footage that you don't get with the Amish built barns, but they require permits, more infastructure, etc. I have a pole barn that I love, but we did the finish work inside ourselves. Its a bigger investment, but we have a 37 acre farm, so its in keeping with the size property we have, as well, houses my hay, the tractor, manure spreader, and all my horsey stuff. I TOTALLY enjoyed building my barn, and altho its been 'a work in progress', in many ways it is my dream barn.
Keep us updated,., I love participating in other's barn building adventures!!
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Jan 21, 2015 9:04:56 GMT
This is so cool to see. Because we built everyting from bricks. It would be nice to have a pre-built barns. But I bet they cost a fortune.
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redzip
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Post by redzip on Jan 21, 2015 14:09:34 GMT
I like this style for the modular/amish built barns. This barn goes for $15,000, set up and delivered in my area. that does not include site prep. You can get a lot more square footage if you build a pole building for that price, and finish the inside yourself.
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Post by horseless on Jan 21, 2015 15:59:34 GMT
This is so cool to see. Because we built everyting from bricks. It would be nice to have a pre-built barns. But I bet they cost a fortune. yes, they are very expensive unfortunatly. I wish we could afford it though, they are very nice looking.
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