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Post by nhg on Nov 8, 2014 22:25:53 GMT
I missed the pictures of her trim. Look at her cute feet! What did the farrier say? Did he not want to take any sole out? Our horses always have that carved out so their foot is concave but he leaves the frog.
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Post by spirithawk06 on Nov 8, 2014 22:33:55 GMT
9 or 10. I'd have to look at her papers again. She was ridden 4 years ago. I wish I had a video of how she moved when we first got her and when she was walking with a twisting motion with a huge swollen bump on the fetlock. As you can see, she's come far from what was seen in the set of pictures posted above.
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Post by nhg on Nov 8, 2014 22:36:52 GMT
It looks like your farrier does a nice job. If I were you I'd get on her and see how she goes now. A few days after the trim, I mean, we never ride within a day or two. Maybe she's sound now after having so much time off.
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Post by spirithawk06 on Nov 8, 2014 22:40:41 GMT
She was trimmed 3 days ago. I forgot to get before pictures because had an appointment 45 min away and had just enough time to squeeze her in. The pictures I just posted after the video were from today.
He cuts until he hits live sole. For the bad one, he does scrape a bit in certain places to encourage the hoof to grow out more naturally. He does barefoot trimming. I'm not sure if that differs from the type of trims yours get.
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Post by nhg on Nov 8, 2014 23:04:45 GMT
I used to spend a bunch of money on a barefoot trimmer until I took my horse to a vet for a lameness exam and he said the trim was okay but nothing special. I think there are a lot of variances in barefoot trimming as well. I don't have a problem with it and in your mare's case it might be the best thing you've done for her to get her sound. I see that he put a mustang roll on that toe, probably a good idea. I'll be really interested to see how things turn out for her. Do you have a chiro that could see her?
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Post by horselady on Nov 9, 2014 0:52:18 GMT
I hate to make you crazy but can you get her walking up the driveway with your hubby behind her. and take the video from her hips and than aim down to her hooves. and pause at her hocks.
from what i see she is favoring that left hip it is either she is or has learned to compensate for the deformed hoof . or her entire left leg is way off. sorry not that far off but enough to cause her to have a hoof and fetlock not be normal.
apparently this is genetic . i do not think it had anything to do with the accident when she was young. it just compounded the entire situation.
i think if you do mri on that hip you will find either a hip that is out of joint and has grown into that position.
of course this is only my opinion. but i would love to see that video walking away from the camera. not turning. and again walking forward perhaps.
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Post by spirithawk06 on Nov 9, 2014 7:46:19 GMT
Preliminary search shows the closest chiropractor is nearly 6 hours away in Shreveport. I messaged them to see if they know someone closer and Monday I will call my vet's office to see if they know anyone. LSU Vet school might know too.
ETA: I found one that's about 2 1/2 hours away. I'm still looking into finding someone more local as the drive would be rather long for a round trip.
As for the video, I'll see what I can do.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 9, 2014 12:34:08 GMT
I see it to HL....the gait is slightly "off" if that is the word to use.
Different the way she moves and places her hind limb one side to the other....
What about the vet school? Don't they do some chiro work as part of vet school..
She is a lovely animal....
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Post by spirithawk06 on Nov 9, 2014 16:39:10 GMT
The vet school is 2 1/2 hours away but doable once we get the new tires on the trailer. Won't be hauling her anywhere with the two back tires. They're car tires for one, and they were in good enough shape to get us home with it, but nowhere near good enough to put a horse in. Plus I need to get the registration transferred in my name and that will cost me $160, which was far more than what I was led to believe based off of the DMV website. ($18.50 for fees, 10% tax ($10) and $70 for the plate - so under $100 according to the web site, but when I called to see what was needed and asked about price, was told that it would be at least $150 and then 10% of the sales price for tax.
I'll be calling the vet school and my own vet on Monday. I checked into another nearby equine vet, but their website doesn't mention chiropracting. I will call them too, but they have a history of being snooty and twice as expensive as my regular vet for the exact same level of care and they won't come down here, so I'd have to bring her to them. My vet just graduated from LSU vet school a few years ago, so she might know someone who does chiropracting.
If I feel up to it today, I'll try to get that video of her walking behind. I'll see about me videoing while someone else walks her or get my cousin to help.
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Post by horselady on Nov 9, 2014 20:29:52 GMT
OK to the video if one of us can spot a problem. but if she is not hurting. and is not going to be bred again. (in case it is genetic) and you are going to keep her for only light riding for your daughter, than see if you can just work on those boots for her feet.. remember to get two of them so she is not putting too much pressure on the good one.
If you can get a good deal in finding out what is really going on with the entire leg and spine. than by all means. if not than perhaps it is not the route to go. i have had horses that limp from an injury and they are fine. and happy so a gimp is what it is ... a gimp.
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Post by horselover4life on Nov 9, 2014 22:00:03 GMT
Spirit...you are going to think me "nuts"....but....
Are her hind legs the same length?
When you look at her hocks from behind, are they level in height?
If looking from behind is her pelvic girdle of the same height both sides and and both sides look to match? Is her butt the same height both sides and even?
I ask only because I use to ride a horse who had had a broken hip...it healed and she was a lovely horse but had a "movement" like your horse.
I've also ridden a horse that had fractured their pelvis, again healed and was fine to ride, but their hind end movement was "different" and took some getting accustomed to.
Does the mare run? You know canter or gallop around on her own? Does she favor anything?
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Post by spirithawk06 on Nov 10, 2014 0:42:24 GMT
She shuffles when she tries the run. That's the best way I can describe it, an odd, shuffling run. I didn't get video today. My cousin called and asked if I wanted to go ride. He brought his horses and a friend and we saddled up and rode for 3 hours. I'm hurting so bad but it felt so good to be back on a horse after nearly 2 years!
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Post by mistersmom on Nov 10, 2014 13:53:13 GMT
Ok, I just had to laugh at Greg's observation! Sorry I can't help much with the hoof issue though.
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Post by spirithawk06 on Dec 5, 2014 0:37:20 GMT
Still haven't gotten around to getting video. Been feeling like absolute crap the past week with some stomach issues.
Got the trailer registered in my name, but Greg's work has slowed, so it'll be a while before we can get tires to see about getting her to a chiro. I did speak to one who said she knows someone closer by 45 minutes and just to let her know when we're ready to get her seen. It wasn't as expensive as I was quoted for the trailer. I don't think the lady I spoke to knew her stuff.
So, my trimmer texted me asking for me to send pictures to one of his mentors. Before I could send them, he texted me saying the guy wanted me to take her completely off grass and put her on hay because her hoof issue was from her diet (not exactly his words but my screen went out on my old phone and I lost the texts.
Tell me how that makes sense? Take a mare who is used to a certain type of grass off her usual suddenly and put her on hay ONLY RIGHT BEFORE WINTER?! Am I just misinformed in thinking that this is not the best game plan? Doesn't quick changes in diet cause more hoof issues?
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Post by spirithawk06 on Feb 16, 2015 17:09:50 GMT
So with emergency surgery and all that jazz, I never updated yall on Tilley's hoof or got that promised video.
My guy came out yesterday. We have some great news! Tilley's hoof is looking more "normal" than ever. Her angles are getting closer to being normal and the non-injured hoof is nearly perfect, which it wasn't in past years because of her bearing her weight wrong. He said he's never been able to trim her "bars" and he was able to this time. The live sole was always far lower than the frog and now she's looking and moving much better.
She had been trimmed once before between the post and now, and there's a marked difference.
He was told that she should be taken off grass and put on hay only. The grass has died down and our winter grass isn't as rich as the bermuda, so there might be some truth to that suggestion. She has lost some weight, which she needed to lose, and I think that's making a difference in her hooves. I'm going to get Mom to start coming work with her more and see if we can't keep her in better shape now that she's not walking "wrong" on that leg. It'll get Mom and Dad out of the house too.
All I have are after pictures of the outside. I'll try to remember to take more once I worm them today. About to go head to the city to pick up supplies and feed.
Star's hooves are looking quite lovely, very healthy and good angles. J asked if he had Appaloosa in him, so that's another horseman who thinks he's a Quarter/Appy cross. He has more spots on him than last year! I rode for a bit. Abs and left knee are a bit ouchy because J gave me a lesson in disengaging his hindquarters while riding bareback.
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Post by horselady on Feb 17, 2015 1:59:34 GMT
It is good to have an update on the filly, and know she is coming along and doing well. and her hooves are being more normal than they were, you filled in so much in a short time. and good for you for hopping on bareback and going for a small ride.
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Post by hugs on Feb 17, 2015 5:14:06 GMT
Very happy to hear about the good news! And sore muscles are good news in this case too, wish I could have seen your session though.  |
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Post by spirithawk06 on Feb 17, 2015 8:49:38 GMT
Nooo! Lol My balance was HORRIBLE! Nearly toppled off once. It was an interesting impromptu lesson though. He showed me some stuff that I hadn't thought about. Star was quite tolerant and already knew most of the stuff J was teaching me. Took a lot to loosen my leg enough to open my knee. I just wanted to stay with my legs clamped around Star's belly so I didn't fall off. It was better once I focused on what J was getting me to do though because I wasn't focused on not falling and my natural balance took over, if that makes any sense. J usually gives me tips and also gets me to ride when he comes to trim. It's been helping my confidence quite a bit! He comes back this weekend to trim Apollo and Hurricane.
Didn't get to worm the horses today. By the time we went to the city and got back, the weather was starting to roll in and I had just enough time to get the critters fed and watered before the rain hit and the temps started dropping. The horses were also way in the back part of the pasture.
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Post by hugs on Feb 17, 2015 12:26:52 GMT
Nooo! Lol My balance was HORRIBLE! Nearly toppled off once. It was an interesting impromptu lesson though. He showed me some stuff that I hadn't thought about. Star was quite tolerant and already knew most of the stuff J was teaching me. Took a lot to loosen my leg enough to open my knee. I just wanted to stay with my legs clamped around Star's belly so I didn't fall off. It was better once I focused on what J was getting me to do though because I wasn't focused on not falling and my natural balance took over, if that makes any sense. J usually gives me tips and also gets me to ride when he comes to trim. It's been helping my confidence quite a bit! He comes back this weekend to trim Apollo and Hurricane. Didn't get to worm the horses today. By the time we went to the city and got back, the weather was starting to roll in and I had just enough time to get the critters fed and watered before the rain hit and the temps started dropping. The horses were also way in the back part of the pasture. Oh I'm sure it felt a lot worse than it looked and I would have completely identified. I know what you mean about safety clamping ones legs around the horse. I often wish I could lock my ankles underneath  I bet it felt better than anything to when your balance took over though that sounds pretty awesome  |
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Post by mistersmom on Feb 17, 2015 14:03:21 GMT
SO glad to hear a good update and even happier to hear you had a great ride!
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I bet it felt better than anything to when your balance took over though that sounds pretty awesome 