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Post by horselady on Sept 18, 2014 17:29:12 GMT
You have done remarkable work with peaches whether you know it or not. didn't you just shave her legs for scratches. well i can not shave or clip my hubbies arabian mare and we own her for 28 years. and if i pick up her rear leg she will either reach back and bite me or kick me so she lives with the scratches.
as for the tarp i have a gelding that i bought at an auction who was i think beat as a youngster during his training. forget garbage cans., or tarps. or water hoses. or anything that was not food related and rest oriented . so what to do with this awesome gelding that i know needed to be taught how to trust. the tarp issue. well he lived with that tarp for 3 days in a stall.., to eat and drink and have dinner he lived with it. after one day he decided the food was real important and the tarp was a non issue. i left him in there at night for a few more days. and after that i would lead him to a tarp. blanket anything on the ground and would walk on it. . one time he even picked it up and decided to drag it while we were walking.
I feel we need to out think them. whether we are afraid of them or not. or i too , at times do not trust my self. and i persist to get the end result. sometimes it will take an hour. of course during that time we are working on other things and go back to the task at hand. case in point. i needed a horse to learn to jump, easy, tiny one foot hop. she refused and refused. i put the cross rail near a wall in the arena with a pole to make a side rail. like an alley. after two times into this and causing a crash each time she decided it was fun to hop over, problem solved. she later became a 3 foot 6 jumper winning many ribbons at shows. it took a year for her to totally become accustomed to that height and we worked with her once a week( if that) for only 8 months. you are doing what you can do with the time you have,. take that and know you are helping her and yourself to become friends. not horse and trainer but buddies.
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Lipizzan
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Post by Lipizzan on Sept 18, 2014 17:41:14 GMT
I like what horselady wrote and she is 100 % right. We are here for you. I know I don't have so much to ofer like most of the guys here but I am here what ever you need, someone to vent to, what ever...
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Post by lorddaxter on Sept 18, 2014 19:40:07 GMT
You know horses are weird, Ira and Isis, well Isis is super jumpy, yet last summer both of them stood like angels while I shaved their legs too, I was kinda shocked, horses are weird.
Anyway, just yabbering!
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hugs
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Post by hugs on Sept 18, 2014 23:29:14 GMT
No, nhg.... it was clearly directed at me. Read my previous "books"here. I am removing much of my post...you find them objectionable I believe and so I will make them disappear..
In answer to your comments hugs...
You are at a disadvantage somewhat because you don't have more time with the horse, yes. Do you pander to her and let her get away with much, yes you really do.
I hope when you move her to a barn in close proximity to where you are now living it gets better..
I won't comment any further on your posts.. Again, my apologies for making you mad... I wish you all the best, I truly do. I will read and follow your updates, and I sincerely look forward to reading about great strides made going forward for both of you.
I'm not mad, I'm hurt. And it was directed at your comment, not you. And not even simply that particular comment but because I've heard it before and I'm so ungodly frustrated about being misunderstood. In addition, Gerald wasn't listening to me about this either. Lipizzan, he's a dad. Has this idea that when he makes statements I ought to genuflect and swallow the pearls of wisdom with joy and thanksgiving. I was trying to have a discussion about "approach avoidance" and "keeping the pressure on". I see the validity of both methods but knowing Peaches as I do the "keeping the pressure on" might of worked but I can't say it would of made the training faster and it sure wouldn't of built the relationship as I needed to do in the beginning. I mean there was NO trust at all. You gotta have trust before you can get respect... or at least it can work that way, either way, she does respect me and I know she trusts me. So from now on if I get hurt I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry that I bothered you HL4L, my fault completely. I'll be good from now on.
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Sept 19, 2014 0:14:29 GMT
your doing what your comfy with, Peaches has come a long ways since you have owned her. The only thing you lack is confidence. That will come.. You know what you need to do but yet are 2nd guessing yourself. One thing you have to do is be the boss mare. If an animal not matter a dog or horse knows your not sure they will take advantage of you. Go out there with a purpose and if that purpose is getting Peaches to step on a tarp. Then just keep that thought and go for it. Don't let Peaches get the best of you. Once she understands that she will also be a better horse. I have 2 nice horses that I trust with my life. But yet if one tries to get something over on me I rule the roost. Believe me I have NEVER had any formal training. All I have learned have been the school of hard knocks. I have a masters in that. Once she learns something she will retain it. She may make you think she didn't but she did. I know it's hard trying to do things when your away from her. But when you do get the time it will pay off in the long run.
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hugs
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Post by hugs on Sept 19, 2014 1:05:15 GMT
Mingiz, thank you. I do try and it isn't comfortable. To tell the truth none of this is comfortable. I didn't get to have a life that's comfortable. Its why I eat most of the time. But I won't quit. I wish so many times I would.
Now Gerald doesn't agree with moving Peaches now because its so late in the season. I told him once she's moved, there she stays, she isn't coming home. I have a permanent job and so far it seems like they like me. Although I won't know for sure until January 7th. Besides, it would be winter at home too! This boarding place keeps their outdoor arena clean of snow as well as the trails. Better than home.
Anyway, I'm trying to get better at all of these things... anyway... I'm trying... I'll be quiet now
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mingiz
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Post by mingiz on Sept 19, 2014 2:43:36 GMT
Mingiz, thank you. I do try and it isn't comfortable. To tell the truth none of this is comfortable. I didn't get to have a life that's comfortable. Its why I eat most of the time. But I won't quit. I wish so many times I would. Now Gerald doesn't agree with moving Peaches now because its so late in the season. I told him once she's moved, there she stays, she isn't coming home. I have a permanent job and so far it seems like they like me. Although I won't know for sure until January 7th. Besides, it would be winter at home too! This boarding place keeps their outdoor arena clean of as well as the trails. Better than home. Anyway, I'm trying to get better at all of these things... anyway... I'm trying... I'll be quiet now Your not a quitter!! Do what you think is best. If moving Peaches closer to you then by all means do it. Then you will have more time to do what you need to do. Sounds like a nice boarding place. Take advantage of it. Give yourself some credit...At least your trying. I think once you and Peaches are together more. Both of you will over come many fears. You will teach each other. It will make you a better horse person and her a better horse. It takes time and it's great exercise and you will eat less.... You already know what you need to do.
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mistersmom
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Post by mistersmom on Sept 19, 2014 12:13:56 GMT
^^^^ditto^^^^^
And no need to be quiet on here. You know we all love you and support you!
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redzip
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Post by redzip on Sept 19, 2014 12:44:46 GMT
You know , we all feel that way smileys-spring-879472 Just the other day, I was riding/working with Zippy, and altho my trainer had not been able to come the past 2-1/2 weeks, I was attempting to get the canter on his left lead, his bad lead, myself (after all he is my horse, not her horse, and just bc she can get him to do it, I STILL NEED to be able to GET HIM TO DO IT ).
It was HORRIBLE, it all fell apart again, he fought with me, I fought with him, he got all frazzled (AGAIN) and then we had to find some good note to quit on
I *started* to get discouraged,.., but THEN I remembered how far we actually had come in the past 2 years,., - I'm back riding again, and Zippy is progressing in all other areas. - my confidence is improving considerably with him when he throws a tantrum, - his ground manners are EXCELLENT - his 'over the top', over reactive fears are diminishing, - we are BOTH in better shape, - and the list goes on,.., So I realized that, 'all things considered', we are still progressing forward, and thats the best I could do. Onward and upward!
I agree that once you get the Peach closer, you will both benefit greatly from that. Please keep us updated, and share you experiences, good and bad,., we all learn from each other.
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Post by horselady on Sept 19, 2014 17:49:57 GMT
You have come a long way with peaches in the amount of time you had to work with her. and if moving her to a facility closer to you works than that is what is right. at least you will have someone to guide you when you ask for it. and is there to monitor you and her. i am sure it will work
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