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Post by hugs on Aug 11, 2014 18:46:49 GMT
Id like to work with Peaches on a regular basis so I'm looking at stables around work. But Gerald is convinced that Penny is the better horse and I ought to put my money into her. But for many reasons and probably none of them are rational, I want to do more with Peachie even though she may never be "ride worthy".
Then this weekend Gerald said I may want to consider selling all 3 horses and buying a babysitter
I'm confused.
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 11, 2014 18:53:19 GMT
Hard decision, I have to say though I wish I had just been sensible and bought a babysitter
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Post by horselover4life on Aug 11, 2014 22:03:57 GMT
I'll be the bad guy......
I think Gerald has a valid point...Well... if you spend more time on the ground having to work on problems and issues than astride... If you really don't mind spending as much time as you do on the ground, with horses in training and someone else riding...
A babysitter would allow you to ride and not have to struggle as you do sometimes daily with a horse who likes giving you attitude.
Honestly, I love, love, love to work with horses on the ground.
But when I want to ride, I want to ride... and totally enjoy myself not worry about what antics my mount will be playing this day...
Maybe Gerald is looking at it from the point of giving you more saddle time and getting to enjoy that aspect of ownership...
having 3 horses and not being able to "jump on and go" at least 1 of them anytime...
I can see his point and words from where they are coming from...he is looking for you to get more enjoyment from riding, not just always having to work so hard and having unpredictable outcomes and disappointment.
It isn't cheap as you know to board a horse that...well, you are the one who mentioned still working on getting the horse to give you their hoof when you ask and for how long this alone has been ongoing....
Seriously, wouldn't it be nice to not have to walk on eggshells constantly around them, to be able to tell them to give you their leg and hoof for cleaning and it is done...every time you ask there is compliance...not one step forward two back then two forward and one back...that is just feet...what else?
I see the good in that from Gerald's eyes.....
 ...to ride and enjoy. Priceless!
sorry, I agree with Gerald to at least THINK about it.
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Post by hugs on Aug 11, 2014 23:33:35 GMT
I hear you and I hear Gerald. I really do. But I can't sell Peaches and we do enjoy each other, I think we'd get further along, the both of us, if we could see each other every day rather than two or three times a month. And it doesn't mean I can't rent a horse at the stables that is in one of the large parks here. I can't say whether I'll ever get to ride Peaches out on the trail but I can't abandon her either.
We were supposed to visit a potential trainer (references this time!!) last weekend but horribly her brother got killed in a motorcycle accident. How awful is that?! She'll call when she can, I'm sure not going to followup with her, how callus would that be!
There are other trainers closer to the cities that maybe I could bring Peaches and then I could see her and get her trained. Checking out all of these options takes time.
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Post by Terry on Aug 12, 2014 0:39:52 GMT
I can see both sides. Perhaps some sort of compromise? I'm just throwing this out there as food for thought (so please don't throw tomatoes), but since you have a special connection with Peaches, have you considered keeping Peaches, selling the other 2, and then getting a babysitter? That way you can continue to train, bond and grow with Peaches, but you will also have a horse that you can just hop on and go for an enjoyable, relaxing ride on. You would still be reducing the number of your herd (by 1, but still a reduction, therefore less cost), and you would gain a horse that you could actually ride anytime you want. Like I said, just something to think about.
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Post by hugs on Aug 12, 2014 1:53:01 GMT
No tomato throwing here, all options are to be considered, you never know what you'll come up with when you keep looking.
Its really tough to think of selling any of the horses. Not because the market is so poor but because the potential buyer pool is so poor. And I'm not a trusting person in the first place. But right now I think it better to get at least 30 days on them before I even put out the word that they're for sale.
Penny could actually be a babysitter, so putting money into her training is worthwhile. She is quite the unflappable horse. Ziggy is a good horse, she would be a good match for someone who has confidence and wants to do athletic things. I'm not confident and I'm not athletic, so I was a perfect match for Buster, but he passed away two years ago and so why I'm in this situation.
I found an instructor for me who will work with me and Peaches. So we both win! $80/2 hours. So now I need to find pasture board somewhere between the two of us. Now don't throw tomatoes at me, but she's a Parelli instructor, so she'll be able to speak my language and we can really talk about why Peachie is the way she is and how to deal with her. Peachie needs someone who understands her not just horses in general. Step by step all the way and alert to when she's afraid and when she's belligerent and they seem the same but they don't get treated the same, not by a long shot. But this way I'll have someone else who understands whats going on and can coach me when to push and when to release. I'm really looking forward to it.
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Post by Terry on Aug 12, 2014 1:59:03 GMT
I completely understand what you're saying about the prospect of selling. No tomato throwing from me!
I'm glad you've found an instructor who will work with you and Peaches. I truly hope this instructor is a good fit for both of you, and I hope you can both learn and grow together with this instruction... oh, and have fun in the process! 
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Post by mingiz on Aug 12, 2014 2:00:15 GMT
Agree with Terry and HL4L. Sometimes it's better to get rid of the issues and have a good end result.  |
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Post by hugs on Aug 12, 2014 11:51:16 GMT
Thanks, I understand everything you folks have been saying. I'm lucky in that I can afford three horses and Gerald is fully on board that selling them is a last resort.
Ziggy can be a very well behaved horse, which is why I adopted her from the rescue. However she will take advantage of you if you are woosie (AHEM PREVIOUS TRAINERS WHO OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED) I mean even I can handle her no problem, for goodness sake.
Penny gets grumpy but that's her only vice.
There's just something about Peach, what can I say? Its stupid if I truly want to ride... and I do!
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Post by horselady on Aug 12, 2014 13:52:23 GMT
I would rather know and get the horses under saddle and with a trainer than to sell them and get a baby sitter.
as you progress that baby sitter might get boring , yes it is expensive for training but the end result is yo have the horses you want and love. only a little more finished.
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Post by nhg on Aug 12, 2014 14:08:13 GMT
I don't know what's right for you. All I can say is that my horse is a babysitter but is still happy to rip around if someone wants him to. The only boring part is that there's really nothing else to teach him. But having a horse that I totally and completely trust is wonderful. I can take him anywhere and I know he'll be fine. And I can put anybody on him because if he feels that they're scared or they don't ride well and lack balance, he'll hardly do anything more than a slow walk. On the other hand, we put someone on him a few weeks ago who hasn't ridden in years but is confident and he found it easy to get Prince to lope.
I know it's hard to give up a horse that you're attached to and horses like mine are very hard to find but don't underestimate the confidence and feeling of safety a horse like that will give you. I enjoy every ride and I love not trying to think ahead about what might happen when my horse sees a mailbox or a bird flies up suddenly in front of us or things like that. Or I drop my stirrups, sorry LD, this made me think of you. |
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Post by hugs on Aug 13, 2014 0:56:28 GMT
NHG, you're describing our Buster, may he rest in peace. Plus he loved  and attention and had quite the sense of humor. One in a million. I honestly think Penny could be that horse, with the right trainer, maybe in 30 days. She has that kind of temperament. If I had more time I could work with her too. I bought a 3 step mounting block because I do plan on riding her someday, but my nerves get the better of me and its easier to groundwork Peaches plus she's so much further behind than everyone else. If I were confident this would all be a nonissue. *sigh* |
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 13, 2014 12:24:30 GMT
NHG, yes, I'm seriously considering Isis future, I don't need 3 horses, who does, if push comes to shove depending on what happens in the near future I may have to consider selling him, I won't make money off him, thinking it would be best to send him to a trainer to work and sell that way he would have a chance, I feel guilty as hell for even thinking about it, him and Ira have been together since birth but no way am I selling Dax and I know in my heart of heart Ira is the best of them all, with another 30-60 days he would be an awesome horse, he's big, healthy and has the best nature you can imagine, very kind soft and loving, he's not spooky except in traffic and that was caused by a so called trainer and is fixable, I just don't have time as I have this thing about working Isis. Isis, he is pretty, he is very loving now too, this has been more recent, he has a beautiful movement and I truly believe he would make an awesome dressage horse in the right hands and a decent jumper as he's tight and careful but out of the 3 he is the most work, he is a pale palomino, Mosquitos love him, he has the softest feet, needs shoes, he's the most independant so would adjust to a new life easier, he will happily spend time alone, not herd bound atall, he is just so reactive and I don't know if I have the patience to put the time in needed to fix this if it is fixable and to be honest I don't know if I truly even want to, yes I'm doing it but more out of keeping on top of things so he doesn't go back to being a complete psycho but not because I truly want to and this thread has made me think about it. Anyway sorry to ramble on on your thread , just saying I do truly sympathise with you, you do get attached to them, sometimes though when you sit and think things through in your head and not your heart you get a surprise at the results, I always said Isis would be the last to go as I know he's difficult and I dread he would end up at auction or worse but you know what I deserve to enjoy my horses and have fun and be reasonably safe, with him I'm not sure atall that will ever happen. |
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Post by hugs on Aug 14, 2014 0:46:15 GMT
LD, you chat away about your horses, I really appreciate hearing other perspectives. So hey, talk away, get your thoughts out in the open, it helps as you know
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 18, 2014 19:15:20 GMT
LD, you chat away about your horses, I really appreciate hearing other perspectives. So hey, talk away, get your thoughts out in the open, it helps as you know Was talking about Isis with my farrier today, she says the owner of the barn she boards at takes problem horses but only if the owner attends and works with the horse at sessions or promises to allow her to sell the horse, sounds good, I may consider it at a later date:) |
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Post by hugs on Aug 18, 2014 19:58:28 GMT
There are dozens of places to board around here but not all have openings. Two have replied to inquiries, $250 and $375 per month. Of course the $175 isn't taking on boarders
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Post by lorddaxter on Aug 18, 2014 21:19:06 GMT
There are dozens of places to board around here but not all have openings. Two have replied to inquiries, $250 and $375 per month. Of course the $175 isn't taking on boarders What do you get for those prices? |
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Post by diamondgirl on Aug 18, 2014 23:09:10 GMT
I had a thought. Could you put the training into Penny, for now. I know you have already thought of that, but have you considered how much it would build your confidence to be back in the saddle again. You would be riding, and gaining skills and confidence. that way you would be better able to deal with Miss Peach. It has been my experience, as an older rider, that it takes me twice as long to learn balance as it does a younger rider, and if I take a few weeks off I seem to have to learn balance all over again. I don't understand why it happens.
Anyway, before I bought my farm I was riding quite a bit. I was amazed by what I was beginning to be able to do again. I couldn't ride any way near the way I could when I was much younger, but I was gaining confidence, balance and feel. It felt great. 
Now I don't have much time to ride, and when I do I find that I feel so out of place on the back of my horse. I try to sit with confidence, but I worry, than Diamond starts to worry, and it's all down hill from there.
Maybe if you could build up your confidence with Penny, and then transfer that to Peachie, you could have two great horses.
Oh, and I totally understand why you can't give up on Peaches. I have Stormy and Diamond. I can't give up on either one of them either. |
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Post by hugs on Aug 19, 2014 0:34:06 GMT
Indoor and outdoor arenas, pasture board (which I prefer) and trails on their 20 acres for the more expensive one.
I am sending Penny to a trainer at home. We were to meet her a couple weeks ago but her brother got killed in a motorcycle accident, so we'll wait for her to get back to us. Peaches is coming up to where I am so I can continue to work with her with an instructor. Gerald likes working with Ziggy so that's taken care of. So now everyone is going to get what they need. Yeah, its a lot of money but nothing goes forward without it. I'm sick and tired of only seeing my animals on the weekend.
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Post by Terry on Aug 19, 2014 3:49:01 GMT
Good for you for making a plan. In the long run I'm sure it will be time and money well spent!
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...to ride and enjoy. Priceless!
and attention and had quite the sense of humor. One in a million. 
